Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

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eternally-gratefull

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SimpleGardner said:
Without a face his words portray a child. I am not alone in this thinking. Let's put it this way, If we all of sudden could see one another and he appeared as a teenager it wouldn't surprise me.
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Yet you ifnore your words

Once again, you fail to admit your own issues or your own sins

Thats on you man, God will judge.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

Your a funny man

One thing is sure, someone hit a nerve, your running around trying to make others look bad to puff yourself up

Sorry i brought you down
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You don't know this EG but we will all soon be meeting our Maker and need to be able to come before Him with a clean heart and clean hands. Salvation is free a gift of Grace/it does not cost us anything, it cost Jesus everything. But are you unaware that our heavenly rewards are based on the deeds we do while we are on the earth? These are the works of the spirit, the things we do to obey, honor and please the Yahshua and the Heavenly Father. Who has convinced you that working at your walk is the same thing as working at your justification? I guarantee a demon is behind it! You forsook living a life pleasing to God for stopping at go and figure that will pay off! You accepted the lie EG. You are now a prisoner to maintaining your position as a No works, No repentance, no obedience, no commandments gang. Because if you quit now you will then have to endure the same persecution protocols your ilk dish out every minute of every day! I don't think you could handle it and that is why you fear returning to the path of Righteousness..

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No need to apologize, If I need to be brought down then down it is.

Eventually, all will answer for their deeds. Even your deeds today and yesterday, all the unrepentant deeds and rebellion in your heart to the will of God will be accounted for.

Your choice to take the Broad path, the easy route of "Got sin, but I got grace!" rather than the narrow path of following in Yahshuas footsteps of obedience and holiness will cone to your ears in the voice of Yahshua as;

Mat 7:23 NIV

(23) Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'


You tried to follow righteousness one time, but you either did not wait for the anointing of the Holy Spirit or you simply catered to the rebellion in your heart and took the broad path. Yahshua said it would be difficult, that's why He has rewards for those who "Endure to the end" There certainly isn't any difficulty in enduring in ones sin is there?

Rude awakenings await those on the broad path of easy sin and easy life. Beware, be ready, or be willing to return to the "narrow path" you forsook so many years ago.

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Naa

I took the narrow path, the path few enter in

Your gospel is really no different than most world religions, work alot, stop sin, and pray you will make it.

You have to get to heaven before you can think of rewards..

If your not on the right path, you have one reward, death

You cant earn salvation, god will not receive your righteousness as payment for sin

The law lead me, sadly, the law has failed to bring you down yet, you still think you obey it, thus you have yet to be trained by it
 
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You don't know this EG but we will all soon be meeting our Maker and need to be able to come before Him with a clean heart and clean hands. Salvation is free a gift of Grace/it does not cost us anything, it cost Jesus everything. But are you unaware that our heavenly rewards are based on the deeds we do while we are on the earth? These are the works of the spirit, the things we do to obey, honor and please the Yahshua and the Heavenly Father. Who has convinced you that working at your walk is the same thing as working at your justification? I guarantee a demon is behind it! You forsook living a life pleasing to God for stopping at go and figure that will pay off! You accepted the lie EG. You are now a prisoner to maintaining your position as a No works, No repentance, no obedience, no commandments gang. Because if you quit now you will then have to endure the same persecution protocols your ilk dish out every minute of every day! I don't think you could handle it and that is why you fear returning to the path of Righteousness..

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Your right, we all will meet our maker

What you do not understand is you better be resurected by him, and not delievered to him

Those delivered will receive what they earn (death)

Those resurrected by him, will have their work judged, and some will rexieve what they do not deserve (life) as well as good silver and precious stone, but even amoung them some will suffer loss but still be saved as through fire

You say you cant earn salvation, then say you must earn it, you contradict yourself and what is sad, is you do not even see it,

As for your attacks,

1. You do not know me, proven by your lies
2. Your judging, when it is you are are judged
3. You demand i obey, yet you bear false witness every time you accuse me of your lies based on your refusal to see what i believe

But its ok, God will judge you, i can expose your ones, but god will judge them its not me you need to worry about, its your maker,


 
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I admit I lack humility. I relate very well to Jesus overturning the tables in the temple. I dig that kind of righteous indignation.

All that said, I hold forever in my heart that Jesus Christ is the son of God, our Lord and Savior, and that His grace is afforded to everyone who has faith in Him. Like my pastor told me long ago, thank God I’m not perfect because it would be pretty difficult to get along with me.
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The one part of your equation that is missing that turns your whole formula into a farce is where you say; "His grace is afforded to everyone who has faith in Him"

Why do I say this?

Because you leave out that "faith" demonstrates itself in;

Good Works and acts of Obedience!

You know; "without works faith is dead"

It sounds like you and your pastor disagree with Yahshua;

Mat 5:48 NIV

(48) Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

You need to go back to your pastor and ask him if he meant to dissuade you from "seeking perfection" and if so you need to recognize that you are sitting under a fallible man who teaches contrary to Yahshua.

Remember this;

1Jn 2:27 NIV

(27) As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.

or do you only listen to the words of Paul excluding all others? I would like to know.

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SimpleGardner said:
The one part of your equation that is missing that turns your whole formula into a farce is where you say; "His grace is afforded to everyone who has faith in Him"

Why do I say this?

Because you leave out that "faith" demonstrates itself in;

Good Works and acts of Obedience!

You know; "without works faith is dead"

It sounds like you and your pastor disagree with Yahshua;

Mat 5:48 NIV

(48) Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

You need to go back to your pastor and ask him if he meant to dissuade you from "seeking perfection" and if so you need to recognize that you are sitting under a fallible man who teaches contrary to Yahshua.

Remember this;

1Jn 2:27 NIV

(27) As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.

or do you only listen to the words of Paul excluding all others? I would like to know.

SG
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See, this is how you get him going

You mention faith and do not mention works

The problem with mr simple here is he does not realise the simple fact that faith is never alone, he seems to think somehow one can have faith and never work, thus they had faith but will not recieve or lost salvation because they lacked works

He does not really understand what faith is, it seems to be a foreign concept to him
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
See, this is how you get him going

You mention faith and do not mention works

The problem with mr simple here is he does not realise the simple fact that faith is never alone, he seems to think somehow one can have faith and never work, thus they had faith but will not recieve or lost salvation because they lacked works

He does not really understand what faith is, it seems to be a foreign concept to him
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Proof you did not read my last post to you...sad, very sad
 
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Yes. AMEN

Easy simple, biblical.

It takes a theologian to turn something THIS SIMPLE to difficult. Peter was a fisherman, NO THEOLOGIANS out there! Paul says the same in Corinthians. God chose that whhich is nothing in this world
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It really is that simple. So I wonder at people who try to make it difficult. I had a friend who constantly did that. She had so many ideas from so many people, she was messed up. I told her she was too full of religion. She didn't take that very well. I don't know where she is today. A pity that she couldn't accept the simple truth of the Word.
 
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Proof you did not read my last post to you...sad, very sad
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Proof?
SimpleGardner said:
The one part of your equation that is missing that turns your whole formula into a farce is where you say; "His grace is afforded to everyone who has faith in Him"

Why do I say this?

Because you leave out that "faith" demonstrates itself in;

Good Works and acts of Obedience!

You know; "without works faith is dead"

It sounds like you and your pastor disagree with Yahshua;

Mat 5:48 NIV

(48) Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

You need to go back to your pastor and ask him if he meant to dissuade you from "seeking perfection" and if so you need to recognize that you are sitting under a fallible man who teaches contrary to Yahshua.

Remember this;

1Jn 2:27 NIV

(27) As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.

or do you only listen to the words of Paul excluding all others? I would like to know.

SG
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My proof is in your own words

Once again, you either do not believe what you say, or you say it, but do not understand what you are saying, or you mean it, and do what you always do, and try to blame shift because someone called you out,
 
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kaylagrl said:
It really is that simple. So I wonder at people who try to make it difficult. I had a friend who constantly did that. She had so many ideas from so many people, she was messed up. I told her she was too full of religion. She didn't take that very well. I don't know where she is today. A pity that she couldn't accept the simple truth of the Word.
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Thats is the problem with religion, you are so self focused you are seriously offended when people do not agree with you, and you come out swinging, and unable to see what is being said.
 
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SimpleGardner said:
The one part of your equation that is missing that turns your whole formula into a farce is where you say; "His grace is afforded to everyone who has faith in Him"

Why do I say this?

Because you leave out that "faith" demonstrates itself in;

Good Works and acts of Obedience!

You know; "without works faith is dead"

It sounds like you and your pastor disagree with Yahshua;

Mat 5:48 NIV

(48) Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

You need to go back to your pastor and ask him if he meant to dissuade you from "seeking perfection" and if so you need to recognize that you are sitting under a fallible man who teaches contrary to Yahshua.

Remember this;

1Jn 2:27 NIV

(27) As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.

or do you only listen to the words of Paul excluding all others? I would like to know.

SG
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You’re right, I’m a farce. I do nothing more than give Jesus all the glory, and in the meantime I share the love and grace of God with terminally ill patients. That’s been my vocation for 20 years, but I digress; I’m a farce.

I better get busy doing some chest thumping and self righteous proclamation. That oughta get me a little salvation. You have anything else to add, Skippy?
 
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Is the goal of Christ to bring you to the Law?

Or is the goal of the Law to bring you to Christ?

Is it the goal of Christ to bring you to the Father?

Is it the goal of the Father to bring you to the law?
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You didn't understand the point that was made?

This is becoming silly.
 
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2 ways that I can think of off the top of my head.
a) Let some man, or some thing deceive you.
2 Timothy 2
16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
b) Self deception. Which includes being "wise in your own conceits."
All of which, is the work of that spirit of anti christ.

Which it would seem, in my mind anyway, not to take the "opt out" option.
Cuz that which don't kill ya? Makes ya stronger!
IOW? I'd rather be dead then be deceived, or be wise in my own conceits!
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Wow. Someone liked this post.

You think the way of escape is the work of anti-Christ. And some other legalist likes that. Amazing.

Well good luck in your "not being deceived" and "not being wise in your own conceits".
 
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Wow. Someone liked this post.

You think the way of escape is the work of anti-Christ. And some other legalist likes that. Amazing.

Well good luck in your "not being deceived" and "not being wise in your own conceits".
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Look who liked it, he does not understand that true faith (the faith that saves) works, and false or dead faith (which never saved anyone) does not,
 
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Lightskin said:
I admit I lack humility. I relate very well to Jesus overturning the tables in the temple. I dig that kind of righteous indignation.

All that said, I hold forever in my heart that Jesus Christ is the son of God, our Lord and Savior, and that His grace is afforded to everyone who has faith in Him. Like my pastor told me long ago, thank God I’m not perfect because it would be pretty difficult to get along with me.
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Just a thought. Remember, they were selling animals in the temple for sacrifice. Now think who it was, about to give His life a sacrifice for the whole world.
 
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Just a thought. Remember, they were selling animals in the temple for sacrifice. Now think about who was about to give His life a sacrifice for the whole world.
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Exactly. Jesus obviously gave His life for us which is why I get a tude when worker bees prance around here with prideful self proclamations.
 
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Lightskin said:
You’re right, I’m a farce. I do nothing more than give Jesus all the glory, and in the meantime I share the love and grace of God with terminally ill patients. That’s been my vocation for 20 years, but I digress; I’m a farce.

I better get busy doing some chest thumping and self righteous proclamation. That oughta get me a little salvation. You have anything else to add, Skippy?
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Two things we should keep in mind;

A ministry is something we sacrifice ourselves to. If you are getting paid for your vocation then it is not a sacrifice, it is an occupation. Now that is not to say that you cannot do your occupation as unto the Lord, but you cannot call it a sacrifice. Now, If you have been doing this as a sacrifice then you have a reward coming...Except...you did not do it in secret but sought out the praises of men so you already have your reward.

Next time keep it between you and Yahshua and you will receive your reward from Him!

As to your second paragraph, please see your first paragraph, you already have...

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Lightskin said:
Exactly. Jesus obviously gave His life for us which is why I get a tude when worker bees prance around here with prideful self proclamations.
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These are the children of those who offered dead animals to their father. All God wanted was people of faith. The priests and money lenders made lots of money (earthly goods) at Passover selling animals on tick. Jesus freely gave himself a LIVING sacrifice for all those who believe in Him.

I get so angry, like Jesus, sometimes.
 
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