Fact Checking LBGTQ+

So is divorce ( except under strict conditions). Jesus said that if someone divorces their partner and remarries they commit adultery.
Is the church saying to all the people on their 2nd, 3rd or even more marriages that they need to repent? Are they being asked to annul those marriages and go back to their first husband or wife, or to remain single?
If not, then why make allowances for one group of people but not another?? As you say, God makes the rules.

So is divorce ( except under strict conditions). Jesus said that if someone divorces their partner and remarries they commit adultery.
Is the church saying to all the people on their 2nd, 3rd or even more marriages that they need to repent? Are they being asked to annul those marriages and go back to their first husband or wife, or to remain single?
If not, then why make allowances for one group of people but not another?? As you say, God makes the rules.

I agree. I,m not sure hating is the way to go. Hatred doesn't tend to bring understanding and enlightened thinking to what we hate. This is especially true when we are trying to work out the inner working of someone else's soul, which only God knows. So who are we to judge others? I seek self knowledge. Only I can get to understand those problem areas in my psyche that keep me from expressing the image of God. Jesus was clear when he said we need to attend to our own sin, not poking around telling people what we think their sin is. Take the great log out of your own eye, then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brothers eye, he said. It is a speck because we just don't know someone elses psyche.

I understand the sentiment of hate the sin, but love the sinner... I think we can hate sin on a general level but I feel like it is difficult to separate out the person from their sin..... I mean we all sin correct?

What I find really troublesome is when people state that God hates sinners and we are to do the same.... that is a problem.

no one said that here that I am aware of. I certainly didn't

another red herring for the road?

what God hates is sin and those who love their sin will keep it, but they cannot say they love God as well and He will not accept the sin when He has made it clear He will not

that is all in scripture

I told you I was not going to reply to you again but this is a different concern. I aly expressed my concerns and advice over your assumption that God is ok with sexual perversion. He isn't

what about divorce? this thread is not about that though is it

you are not responsible for someone's elses sin...IF it is sin because there are biblical reasons for divorce...you are only responsible for your own sin

further, the Bible does not forbid marriage

it forbids fornication and adultery

it does forbid sexual perversion also

your red herring does not swim

You turning from your sin should not be contingent on whether other people turn from theirs. At the end of the day, you can only turn from and be cleansed of yours.

I repent when I fall short. Whether others are told to repent for other things does not determine whether I decide to ask for forgiveness for my thing and act in accordance with what God wants.

Take it from me; I came out of the LGBT life when I received Christ. It's not impossible and no excuses should be made for the LGBT community.

Jesus says that anyone who divorces his or her partner ( except for sexual infidelity) commits adultery. You say the bible condemns adultery. So why do I never hear a preacher railing against people in the church who are on their 2nd or more husband, or wife? Why does the church not condemn it in the way that they condemn homosexuals?
Indeed I am responsible for my sin and I,m definitely not responsible for your sin, so you are right on this point. But you then tell me that God isn't ok with sexual perversion....so I guess you must think I,m a pervert? So you are quite happy to point out that particular sin rather than leave it between me and God!

oh my

so so many little red fishies swimming around in your pond

right. did I say otherwise about divorce? of course for adultery...nothing to do with your scenario

I've heard plenty about sinful behavior from the platform. maybe change churches if yours condones sinning

homosexuality is sexual perversion

but I did not call you a pervert.

dude...this thread is about the LGBDQ and any other alphabetical offerings along those lines...there is plenty of types of sin to go around, but this thread is about those sins

I need to go back to not talking to you cause I really have already said what I had to say and now you are just ignoring the elephant in the room...or trying to

Jesus says that anyone who divorces his or her partner ( except for sexual infidelity) commits adultery. You say the bible condemns adultery. So why do I never hear a preacher railing against people in the church who are on their 2nd or more husband, or wife? Why does the church not condemn it in the way that they condemn homosexuals?
Indeed I am responsible for my sin and I,m definitely not responsible for your sin, so you are right on this point. But you then tell me that God isn't ok with sexual perversion....so I guess you must think I,m a pervert? So you are quite happy to point out that particular sin rather than leave it between me and God!

well there is a difference between discussing what someone says or dodging what someone says and inserting what they did not say

no hard feelings

as you were

I am SOOO gonna use this.. lol

Cal,
what's your point here?? just asking???

Jesus says that anyone who divorces his or her partner ( except for sexual infidelity) commits adultery. You say the bible condemns adultery. So why do I never hear a preacher railing against people in the church who are on their 2nd or more husband, or wife? Why does the church not condemn it in the way that they condemn homosexuals?
Indeed I am responsible for my sin and I,m definitely not responsible for your sin, so you are right on this point. But you then tell me that God isn't ok with sexual perversion....so I guess you must think I,m a pervert? So you are quite happy to point out that particular sin rather than leave it between me and God!