Rapture Top Dogs Admit no Proof Exists

Another LAUGHABLE statement. Should we ROTFL or just ignore this?

So you think that "shall judge the world in righteousness by a Man whom He hath appointed" (Acts 17:31) lasts for merely "a singular 24-hr day" ??

That's not how Psalm 9:7-8, Psalm 96:10-13, Psalm 98:1-10 make it sound.

The "IN WHICH" of Acts 17:31 [and elsewhere, in other related passages] consists of MUCH which will transpire within that [phrase/time]/therein!!

...and I've posted before about how the "THEN" word in 1Cor15:24 ("THEN the end") is a SEQUENCE word only (with NO time element attached with it), so that is referring to the same time frame, that is, His reign (on/over the earth) commencing upon His "RETURN" to the earth (Rev19; where Rev19:15b also speaks of "future"... even from that perspective/point in time)

"The Church which is His body" has suffered "tribulations and persections" since coming into existence in the first century (see 2Th1:4, for example), so for NEARLY TWO THOUSAND YEARS!!!; Eph1:20-23. It is not WAITING for the future "7-yr period" in order to experience this.

That is an incorrect understanding of the PURPOSE for that future "7-yr period".

If you believe that, then "too bad" for all those Christians who've had to MISS OUT on that future "7-yr period" coz they died too soon... [?!?! weird!]

[insert ^ ] … and He will "STAND to JUDGE" even BEFORE His "RETURN" to the earth Rev19, where Rev5 speaks of this [/Isa3:13 and other passages]

It's a future event. It's not like going out and digging for dinosaur bones or missing links. The Bible says that there will be a future event that will take the World by surprise. Just believe by faith what the Bible says. Have your lamps trimmed and burning. We shall see the King when He comes! PTL!

EDIT to correct reference: ^ this should read "Psalm 98:1-9"

And this is called THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST. It has nothing to do with the Pre-Tribulation Rapture, which takes place at least seven years before the Second Coming.

Everyone should note carefully that at the Second Coming, Christ comes from Heaven WITH His saints (and angels) in power and great glory, to execute judgment upon the ungodly: And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. (Jude 1:14,15)

So in order to come with His saints, it is necessary that Christ first come FOR His saints, And that is the Resurrection/Rapture: For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first [see 1 Corinthians 15] : Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (1 Thess 4:16,17)

Caught up together = Greek harpagesometha = Latin Rapimur = English Rapture.

TOM! Those were the days of adorable and funny cartoons.

Did you read the article?
This is the article referred to at the Bible.org site.

From the series: Daniel The Key To Prophetic Revelation
9. The Prophecy Of The Seventy Weeks

Article contributed by www.walvoord.com

^ Okay, I thought maybe this was what you were getting at.

I've posted before, a number of reasons why I do not believe the "he" of verse 27 is speaking of Jesus (too many of my old posts to place here)… but for a very brief sampling:

--the words "[the prince] THAT SHALL COME" [in the bold] would be superfluous if speaking of the same Person as in v.25; and

--the passage is SEQUENTIAL; and

--the 69 Weeks [TOTAL] were concluded on the very day that Jesus DID the Zech9:9 thing, and SAID the Lk19:41-44 thing (BOTH regarding "the city [/Jerusalem]," which is actually what the prophecy itself IS STATED to pertain to!); Then what took place following that day (Palm Sunday) was the "CUT OFF" thing, which, by comparing several Scriptures, INCLUDES His arrest/trials (as well as the Cross itself)… [I've listed those Scriptures, including Jer11:19 among several others], "cut off and have nothing [or, but not for himself]" (then, here's where what I had put about "Acts 3 [esp. 3:21]" would come into play);

--too many more, to go into here

Worked for John Calvin and Martin Luther.And look what that got us.

Actually the bible is clear....Post Trib/Pre Wrath when all scriptures are evaluated HONESTLY......!

Not one mentions it.

No mention of a pre trib rapture in scripture. Only a rapture on the last day after the resurrection.

Let's see your evidence, then laugh..........

I only watched the second video, but I was most impressed by the accuracy of this teacher. He also pronounced the Greek words properly. I might add, there is only ONE return of Jesus and no rapture. It is not there in the Greek. As for Jerome's Vulgate translation, he barely knew Greek or Hebrew. So, he invented words where he didn't know what the words meant in the original languages!

If a Christian believe in a pre-trib rapture, while another do not, are there any significance differences in how they will live their lives now on Earth?

Curious as to your interpretation of Harpazo then?

Yesterday (at the first posting of this), I didn't realize the big blue font was actually a link.

After you posted this again (and after my response of yesterday), I went and read the article.

He spent the first half (or a good portion of it) explaining how some people (lots of people ) conflate/confuse the "70 Years" prophecy (in the early parts of Daniel 9) with that of the "70 Weeks" prophecy starting later in chapter 9, thus coming to incorrect conclusions regarding it.

I can't say that I found anything terribly "off" about that article, especially in view of what I had placed (briefly) in my response already (that is, esp how the "69 Wks [TOTAL]" concluded on the very day Jesus DID the Zech9:9 thing, and SAID the Lk19:41-44 thing (i.e. on Palm Sunday--the TENTH day of the FIRST MONTH, thus fulfilling Exodus 12:2-6, the selection of the lamb/Lamb) [BOTH re: "the city [/Jerusalem]"--which is what the 2nd prophecy [the "70 WEEKS" prophecy] in Dan9 is stated to pertain to]).

Two IS a number of heaven