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EleventhHour

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I stated nothing about anything against the gospel but as per your M.O. attack is what you do.

I have no time to debate someone who walks w/o light!
All you have online is words,I pray in R L your light shines, but I doubt it.
Your fruit proves you lack love except to your clique.
May you meet Jesus my saviour who showed His great love in dying for all who come to Him in repentance of their sins!

There is only one Saviour and He saves completely apart from any and all works and He imparts eternal life that is in fact eternal.

That is the Gospel

So really the question remains, who are you talking about, certainly not Christ Jesus who is Savior and SAVES.

The fictional character you reference does not exist. Your character is necessarily but not sufficient...that is not a Saviour

Oh you come here, but have no time to debate, why is that?

Because you know you have no case based on scripture.
 
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Oh cool. That means because I have been born. I am alive.

This can not change. Because I have been born already and it is the same thing as being alive.
Being born again means being made alive in Christ where you were once dead in sin:

"God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions" - Ephesians 2:4-5

'Born again' is a metaphor. It's a make over, not a new human being that didn't exist before being brought into existence. You can certainly go back to being dead in sin.
 
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EleventhHour

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If you cannot find your way in the word,I doubt I'll be able to prove anything to you!
The onus on you...free will is not a biblical concept...never has been its root is in Greek
philosophy..... so you made the assertion stand by your words.
 
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LordsHandmaiden

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The onus on you...free will is not a biblical concept...never has been its root is in Greek
philosophy..... so you made the assertion stand by your words.



So YOU 're saying God made you repent?...lol
 

OneOfHis

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Being born again means being made alive in Christ where you were once dead in sin:

"God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions" - Ephesians 2:4-5

'Born again' is a metaphor. It's a make over, not a new human being that didn't exist before being brought into existence. You can certainly go back to being dead in sin.


I guess we are done if you won't be sincere.


You claim having been born <- past event


is the SAME as being alive <- present sate.





We are not talking cause and effect but specific points of our original posts where you then conflated two things to avoid one point and turned it into another.
 
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LordsHandmaiden

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Funny
Now that is a truly charitable statement.

You guys go on about love, love, love yet have no compunction hurling insults when called to task.



How appropriate that you cannot see yourself.
The attack came from you,who certainly shows no compassion nor charity but is always stating YOU must defend the gospel Zena😂😂😂😂
 

Tellion

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I guess we are done if you won't be sincere.


You claim having been born <- past event


is the SAME as being alive <- present sate.





We are not talking cause and effect but specific points of our original posts where you then conflated two things to avoid one point and turned it into another.
That's the common strategy. I keep falling for it too, don't feel bad.
 
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LordsHandmaiden

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I really hope all who CLAIM they are children of God are!
May His mercy shine in every life !
 
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EleventhHour

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How appropriate that you cannot see yourself.
The attack came from you,who certainly shows no compassion nor charity but is always stating YOU must defend the gospel Zena😂😂😂😂
Yup .... preaching fear and bondage which is evident in your post is not from God....so am I strident yes...I make no apologies for that.
 
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EleventhHour

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Why are you so bitter?


I am not trying to offend you.



Have you ever had a different account on christianchat?
You noticed too?

Someone has history here....right from the first post a few months back...stating they had read the whole thread..... etc., etc.,
 

OneOfHis

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You noticed too?

Someone has history here....right from the first post a few months back...stating they had read the whole thread..... etc., etc.,
Remember the person who started the thread about insults?

What was their name?

It was a lady.