Has the second coming occurred already?

Okay breath!

It's been aiming towards that for 2000 years, right!

Have you not read in Romans 16:20 where Paul says to them that.... that Satan's Head would be crushed shortly.... This was referring to the 'resurrection of the dead' ........

Do you not understand that all the faithful of old covenant Israel was in sheol except a few?

The resurrection of the dead was the crushing of Satan's authority or headship over the earth.

Satan is a powerful creature, he was a coregent with God before he fell. But he's running out of kingdoms and places to hide.

No it has not. How can I be so sure? Because I'm STILL HERE.

What do you mean breathe? We are having a simple discourse. No one is getting excited here.

To understand that verse you have to go back to verses 17-19 and the trouble that was brewing in the Roman Church:

17 I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. 18 For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people. 19 Everyone has heard about your obedience, so I rejoice because of you; but I want you to be wise about what is good, and innocent about what is evil

Satan was influencing the Church by deception. Paul was addressing this and how to overcome that. Surly you cannot concluded that with all the evil in this world that Lucifer is not very much active and still has authority? When will the new Heaven and new Earth come about.

I know brother i get that all the time, dazed and confused! But you are great and mighty!! Right?!

But there is no such creature as a 21st century rapture!

Are you so smart that you've out smarted God?? Paul said... the dead in Christ shall rise...then we or us (meaning himself) who are alive and remain shall be caught up with them...

The dead in Christ was in sheol, those who were alive and remain were the rest of the faithful of old covenant Israel who had not died yet! That's who was to be raptured, or caught up!!! That's why Paul, made the statement in Rom ch 11 ...all Israel will be saved...

The blotting out of the sun, moon and the stars, was the end of the old creation in Adam.

Love your zeal bro TKS for the kind words!!!

In the Word oft times God will give prophecy in the past tense as an affirmation that it is a sure thing not to be changed.

Another poster here who also adheres to preterism said that Israel was Babylon described in Rev 17. You’re sayin Israel will be saved. Who’s is correct in their assertions?

Hey bro up way past my bedtime, Loved chatting with you, you're on a good course as far as I can tell?! Put all these things on a shelf and keep pondering them! Thanks for sharing!!

Ok

I didn't understand what you are saying?

Never mind.

O! I get it! There is no contradiction; both assertions are correct! I'm sorry, so tired my eyes are blurry. Maybe I can address this tomorrow 👀

To begin in order to understand of Matthew 24 one needs to read Matthew 23 first. The Olivet discourse has more than one application.
Many who read Matthew 24 either place everything Christ said as belonging to the second coming or in the case of Preterists everything around AD70. The way I see it is that Jesus prophesied the events of AD70. He warned that generation what would happen in their lifetime and those who heeded the warning escaped Jerusalem before it was too late. But those events were not ''THE'' second coming. God used the Romans in the same way he used the Assyrians and Babylonians. In the case of Babylon he allowed the Jews to return and build another Temple but this time he didn't. The reason he didn't was because the Old Testament age was completed at the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ. After those events God allowed the Temple and City to continue for a while to allow people time to repent and for the Church to be established in the world at large.

A new heavens and a new earth? Really?

Why wasn't the battle of Gog & Magog which includes ALL the nations surrounding Israel (not Rome) recorded in history?
A battle that big with such an outcome would have been recorded in human history. (Ezekiel 38 & 39, Rev 20)

Why is the sea still here? (Rev 21:1)

Why can I still see the light of the sun? (Rev 21:23, Rev 22:5)

Why do people still die? (Rev 21:4)

Why do people still mourn for people who still die? (Rev 21:4)

Why are millions of people (including Christians) still in pain? (Rev 21:4)

Why can't we see God face to face? (Rev 22:4)

Nope

because if so, prophecynand it’s purpose is meaningless

God said prophecy is for one purpose and one purpose only. So those who witness its fulfilment knows God spoke, and it came true.

if it does not come true, or we just make an allegory or hyperbole out of its t has no bearing on what God said, so you will Know I am the lord your God.

The prophecies of daniel 2 and 7 have not yet been fulfilled,if one would study deeply, the Rome of Jesus day did not do all that it was said they would do,

that’s why 70ad is a false end..

plus CHrist did not return at 70 ad and punish the gentile nation's,

Again, you’re spiritualizing the promised kingdom. It’s a literal, physical, visible kingdom where Christ is ruling from Jerusalem in person. Yes, the kingdom of God is in the hearts of believers, but I’m referring to the restoration of the kingdom of Israel, the kingdom of heaven. To equate the two is a huge mistake.

No it has not: Anyone who teaches it has has no Spirit of God in them, is unregenerate and deceived to the utter most and their opinions should be disregarded completely.

The second coming has not already happened. It will be felt and seen globally.

The last day will be the end of this corrupted creation. One outward demonstration of the flesh is all that was promised. God is not man as us.

He will come as lightening in a flash as a thief in the night. Blink of the eye.