THIRD TEMPLE NEWS

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This thread is third temple news, sir...it means that there are those who are INDEED buiding a temple, in their disbelief, in their confusion...and in all this, as they build, they neglect the very WORD of GOD wrtten to them that there is NONE CLEAN...just as Haggai 2 explains,,,and just as EZRA shows the severity in providing and proving with credentials a pure line....

If one couldn´t do that, they COULD NOT LAY A HAND in building anything...

Yet, they are doing what is already written and testifies against them...
My concern is those who believe it to be the true temple which means they already are in a state of apostasy and possibly beyond repentance.
 
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And sir...the kingdom of that other/hell

Two kingdoms...those outside THE DOOR...are not entering in THE KINGDOM of GOD/HEAVEN...
Just as the WORD says...because they don´t have the RIGHT GARMENT...not understanding that The BLOOD of ONLY ONE, washes them and makes what is unclean, CLEAN before GOD
But only the born again can see the true kingdom. = the rest are lost.
 

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My concern is those who believe it to be the true temple which means they already are in a state of apostasy and possibly beyond repentance.
They are NOT in a state of apostasy...change your heart, sir...they do not know as they should know...and they do not believe all that they have heard about CHRIST...so, what they do, sir...they do in ignorance...

If they believed and they performed this work...that is apostasy...

But, these, having not believed, what they do, though it is an abomination (in the sight of GOD and believers), it is done in ignorance...

We are not to hate them...we are to pray for them that GOD may reveal their sin and they will come to repentance and faith in CHRISTŚ WORK as the ONLY WAY back unto GOD/HEAVEN...
 

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Revelation 19 might remind you of the two kingdoms being prepared...
And Mattew 22 will remind you of the COVERING¨ needed for THE KINGDOM of GOD...

This ¨COVERING" is spoken of also in Revelation...and you should note that it isn´t worn only by the believing and converted (TO CHRIST) ¨gentiles¨...
 
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They are NOT in a state of apostasy...change your heart, sir...they do not know as they should know...and they do not believe all that they have heard about CHRIST...so, what they do, sir...they do in ignorance...

If they believed and they performed this work...that is apostasy...

But, these, having not believed, what they do, though it is an abomination (in the sight of GOD and believers), it is done in ignorance...

We are not to hate them...we are to pray for them that GOD may reveal their sin and they will come to repentance and faith in CHRISTŚ WORK as the ONLY WAY back unto GOD/HEAVEN...
Anyone who thinks a return to animal sacrifices can replace Christ's blood on the cross is an apostate.
 

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Rev 20 covers the Kingdom from the time of Christ till the end of the world and slightly beyond.
Okay...but you past over the outcome for those who are still outside THE DOOR...that is what we are to concentrate on NOW.

Remember, John 5 will be the resurrection of ALL...and those who had not heard HIS VOICE while they lived, who did not believe, will hear HIS VOICE...and rise for the judgment...

The 1000 year reign is a weeding, sir...it is a time of peace, there should be NO NEED for one to reject the peace that is during this time. yet......when satan is released once again cause confusion, there will be those who rebel, and those who rebel, will have nothing to blame for their disobedience and rejection but on their own iniquity...
 

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My concern is those who believe it to be the true temple which means they already are in a state of apostasy and possibly beyond repentance.

Then you NEED TO READ REVELATION and Zechariah chapter 14, and REALIZE IT WILL ALL in the not so distant FUTURE, EXACTLY LIKE HE SAID IT WOULD. The 70th Week of DANIEL, cannot commence until the CHURCH-age is FINISHED. Then and ONLY THEN, everything that Happens in the TRIBULATION PERIOD happens, exactly like HE SAID IT WOULD. You must not think GOD IS TOTALLY IN CONTROL.
 
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Then you NEED TO READ REVELATION and Zechariah chapter 14, and REALIZE IT WILL ALL in the not so distant FUTURE, EXACTLY LIKE HE SAID IT WOULD. The 70th Week of DANIEL, cannot commence until the CHURCH-age is FINISHED. Then and ONLY THEN, everything that Happens in the TRIBULATION PERIOD happens, exactly like HE SAID IT WOULD. You must not think GOD IS TOTALLY IN CONTROL.
Daniel has no gap. The born again saw the kingdom arrive in the times of the Roman Empire. Those not born again still look for it in its original Pharisaic form.
 

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Is the work of GOD over, sir?

We were told to cast the seeds, sir...

In my opinion, some He will have a lot of work to do on them, before they is ready.

I agree with comment by the way. Yes, cast the seeds all over, and then PRAY, some will find fertile ground in their hearts.
 

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Daniel has no gap. The born again saw the kingdom arrive in the times of the Roman Empire. Those not born again still look for it in its original Pharisaic form.

Sure it does, but you have to be a genuine Born Again Christian to see it.
 
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Sure it does, but you have to be a genuine Born Again Christian to see it.
Correction; “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” John 3:3 (KJV 1900)
Physical kingdom buffs cannot see it, still looking for it in the future.
 

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Correction; “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” John 3:3 (KJV 1900)
Physical kingdom buffs cannot see it, still looking for it in the future.

1 Corinthians 2:7-16 (NIV)
7 No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began.
8 None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him"--
10 but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.
11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
12 We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us.
13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.
14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:
16 "For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ.

2 Peter 3:3-4 (HCSB)
3 First, be aware of this: Scoffers will come in the last days to scoff, living according to their own desires,
4 saying,Where is the promise of His coming? Ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they have been since the beginning of creation.”

1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 (HCSB)
14 Since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, in the same way God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep through Jesus.
15 For we say this to you by a revelation from the Lord: We who are still alive at the Lord’s coming will certainly have no advantage over those who have fallen asleep.
16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the archangel’s voice, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
17 Then we who are still alive will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and so we will always be with the Lord.
18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.

Matthew 25:1-13 (HCSB)
1 “Then the kingdom of heaven will be like 10 virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the groom.
2 Five of them were foolish and five were sensible.
3 When the foolish took their lamps, they didn’t take olive oil with them.
{No Holy Spirit In Their Hearts.}
4 But the sensible ones took oil in their flasks with their lamps.
5 Since the groom was delayed, they all became drowsy and fell asleep.
6 “In the middle of the night there was a shout:
Here’s the groom! Come out to meet him.’
7 “Then all those virgins got up and trimmed their lamps.
8 But the foolish ones said to the sensible ones, ‘Give us some of your oil, because our lamps are going out.’
9 “The sensible ones answered, ‘No, there won’t be enough for us and for you. Go instead to those who sell, and buy oil for yourselves.’
10 “When they had gone to buy some, the groom arrived. Then those who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet, and the door was shut.
11 “Later the rest of the virgins also came and said, ‘Master, master, open up for us!’
12 “But he replied, ‘
I assure you: I do not know you!’ {No Holy Spirit, means THEY never have been BORN AGAIN, No invite to the wedding.}
13 “Therefore be alert, because you don’t know either the day or the hour.
 
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Okay...but you past over the outcome for those who are still outside THE DOOR...that is what we are to concentrate on NOW.

Remember, John 5 will be the resurrection of ALL...and those who had not heard HIS VOICE while they lived, who did not believe, will hear HIS VOICE...and rise for the judgment...

The 1000 year reign is a weeding, sir...it is a time of peace, there should be NO NEED for one to reject the peace that is during this time. yet......when satan is released once again cause confusion, there will be those who rebel, and those who rebel, will have nothing to blame for their disobedience and rejection but on their own iniquity...
The thousand years as the last days is a hidden time period is for those who walk by faith the unseen. Those of the number that walk by sight they seek after a sign. God does not number time or people. Natural mankind is quick to fill those numbers in.

We are reigning with Christ. The great commission getting the wedding invitations out. Sowing the gospel of peace the incorruptible seed to the whole world. The door will be closed on the last day .The great day, the day of the Lord . The last day .

Today is the day that God is still giving new creatures ears to His his voice. Those ears will closed or cut off on the last day like a flash of lighting from the east to the west.
 

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It would be a good time to show everyone WHAT the LORD PUT ON MY HEART TO BELIEVE, about the Church Age. This Chart shows it better than anyone I have ever seen:



However, I am not certain that the Rapture happens that soon, and I would put it very close to the Mideast Peace Treaty being Signed. I know there are Christians that believe it is Mid-Trib, and Christians that believe it could be very NEAR the End of Tribulation. I Will Not argue that Point, but Pre-Trib is my view, because HE told those almost 2000 years ago,

Matthew 25:13 (ESV)
13 Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.

So, I think the Author of this Chart, put the Rapture that from The Peace Treaty, to give them time to build the Third Temple. But if they Restore the Tabernacle of David, (A FANCY TENT), in the City of David, they would be having Sacrifices there, which I think will be NON - BLOOD Sacrifices, such as First Fruits, the Harvest {Tabernacles}, etc. - I am sure the TWO WITNESSES of Rev. Chapter 11, will teach them, that JESUS IS THE FULFILLMENT OF THE BLOOD SACRIFICE. So that Third Temple could be built during that first 3.5 year period. Yes, that means, that could possibly be built on the TEMPLE MOUNT, OR the City of David, the real site. Since THAT TEMPLE is destined to have Satan's Antichrist sitting on the throne there, maybe GOD would want the Temple on the WRONG SITE.

I recently read an article that SOLOMON's Temple was North of the City of David's, "Tabernacle of DAVID". It did not say HOW FAR NORTH, if it 600 or more NORTH it would on the traditional Temple Mount. If Not, it is right Next Door of the Tabernacle of David.
 
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1 Corinthians 2:7-16 (NIV)
7 No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began.
8 None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him"--
10 but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.
11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
12 We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us.
13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.
14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:
16 "For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ.

2 Peter 3:3-4 (HCSB)
3 First, be aware of this: Scoffers will come in the last days to scoff, living according to their own desires,
4 saying,Where is the promise of His coming? Ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they have been since the beginning of creation.”

1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 (HCSB)
14 Since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, in the same way God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep through Jesus.
15 For we say this to you by a revelation from the Lord: We who are still alive at the Lord’s coming will certainly have no advantage over those who have fallen asleep.
16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the archangel’s voice, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
17 Then we who are still alive will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and so we will always be with the Lord.
18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.

Matthew 25:1-13 (HCSB)
1 “Then the kingdom of heaven will be like 10 virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the groom.
2 Five of them were foolish and five were sensible.
3 When the foolish took their lamps, they didn’t take olive oil with them.
{No Holy Spirit In Their Hearts.}
4 But the sensible ones took oil in their flasks with their lamps.
5 Since the groom was delayed, they all became drowsy and fell asleep.
6 “In the middle of the night there was a shout:
Here’s the groom! Come out to meet him.’
7 “Then all those virgins got up and trimmed their lamps.
8 But the foolish ones said to the sensible ones, ‘Give us some of your oil, because our lamps are going out.’
9 “The sensible ones answered, ‘No, there won’t be enough for us and for you. Go instead to those who sell, and buy oil for yourselves.’
10 “When they had gone to buy some, the groom arrived. Then those who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet, and the door was shut.
11 “Later the rest of the virgins also came and said, ‘Master, master, open up for us!’
12 “But he replied, ‘
I assure you: I do not know you!’ {No Holy Spirit, means THEY never have been BORN AGAIN, No invite to the wedding.}
13 “Therefore be alert, because you don’t know either the day or the hour.
Paul and Jesus both place the rapture at the end of the world after the first resurrection. That places a huge constraint on Dispensationalism. Here it is;
The rapture;

“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” (1 Thessalonians 4:16–17)

“Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.” (1 Corinthians 15:51–53)


But it happens after the resurrection. Which happens on the last day

“In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.” 1 Corinthians 15:52 (KJV 1900)


“Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.” (John 5:28–29)

“And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.” (John 6:39)

“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up on the last day.” John 6:44 (HCSB)

“so man lies down and does not rise; until the heavens are no more, they will not awake nor arise from their sleep.” (Job 14:12) (NET)


https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/rapture-top-dogs-admit-no-proof-exists.190008/
 
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It would be a good time to show everyone WHAT the LORD PUT ON MY HEART TO BELIEVE, about the Church Age. This Chart shows it better than anyone I have ever seen:



However, I am not certain that the Rapture happens that soon, and I would put it very close to the Mideast Peace Treaty being Signed. I know there are Christians that believe it is Mid-Trib, and Christians that believe it could be very NEAR the End of Tribulation. I Will Not argue that Point, but Pre-Trib is my view, because HE told those almost 2000 years ago,

Matthew 25:13 (ESV)
13 Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.

So, I think the Author of this Chart, put the Rapture that from The Peace Treaty, to give them time to build the Third Temple. But if they Restore the Tabernacle of David, (A FANCY TENT), in the City of David, they would be having Sacrifices there, which I think will be NON - BLOOD Sacrifices, such as First Fruits, the Harvest {Tabernacles}, etc. - I am sure the TWO WITNESSES of Rev. Chapter 11, will teach them, that JESUS IS THE FULFILLMENT OF THE BLOOD SACRIFICE. So that Third Temple could be built during that first 3.5 year period. Yes, that means, that could possibly be built on the TEMPLE MOUNT, OR the City of David, the real site. Since THAT TEMPLE is destined to have Satan's Antichrist sitting on the throne there, maybe GOD would want the Temple on the WRONG SITE.

I recently read an article that SOLOMON's Temple was North of the City of David's, "Tabernacle of DAVID". It did not say HOW FAR NORTH, if it 600 or more NORTH it would on the traditional Temple Mount. If Not, it is right Next Door of the Tabernacle of David.
The bible does not teach the idea of church age? What that about? Some sort of division? Is not Abel the first member of the bride of Christ. The first martyr?
 
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Much of this has no bible support. You need to prove a gap exists (can't be done). Meaning most of it is based on a hack job of scripture.