THE LIE IN LORDSHIP SALVATION THEORY

Yea, a man may say, “Thou hast faith, and I have works.” Show me thy faith apart from thy works, and I will show thee my faith by my works.

Hand in glove. Works don't save, but a Christian will have works to show. That's what the Bible says. I don't give two dimes what Mc Arthur said, whoever he is.

Mk9:47 tells the consequences of trusting in works and rather believe in Christ's grace.

Look, Sudakar,

I came here asking no questions of anyone because I steep myself in scripture reading. I have no questions regarding my faith. The only questions I present are in response to discussions already begun by others.

I come here to edify the brethren (if they so choose to be edified).

The spirit behind your questioning comes off as mockery with the intent to make fools out of people. Like how the Pharisees approached Jesus in their questioning (seeking to catch something out of his mouth that they might accuse him).

I am secure in my faith; if that bothers you, I cannot help that.

I read this lordship theologie in my mothertongue ( for better understanding ). I cant find that they teach something wrong. If you claim to be a Follower of Christ, but it is not to seen in your Actions, doings and behaviour, I would questioning that you are a Follower of Christ.
What is wrong with it?

Nothing in that passage is about works. And again, no one is promoting a works salvation.

Paul answered this issue in Romans 7

What was it?

How can you speak for people? How do you KNOW what is in their heart that you accuse them that they say christians who commit sin are unsaved? You are simply assuming they are doing the same thing that you are doing...

Because, you, are accusing them of doing good works because they are not saved....

I have to disagree a bit. Honestly it seems you are still talking about this 100% in the flesh. You're saying that the "difference" between the saved and unsaved is our "confessions of faith in Christ's atonement"? Really? Please don't take me wrong, I agree with you honestly, the believer does have "confessions of faith in Christ's atonement". but can the non believer not "confess" the same thing with his mouth? Why do we have this confession? What makes the Christian different from the lost when we say it? His power and Spirit. We are now spiritually resurrected and made whole as we were created to be. That is the difference, and those without His Spirit are blind to the things of the Spirit, and the things of the Spirit sound like foolishness to those who are perishing. I can't exactly disagree with you here, because you're technically 100% right, but the way you're coming at things, the way you're looking at the world around you causes me to question, at the very least your understanding of the Spirit and being born again, but also to hear you out, because God works in each one of us personally for a purpose, so I'd truly be eager to hear what you have to say, your perspective, and some of your testimony if you feel like sharing. I like hearing how He draws us in. I am skeptical only because I know how it works in my head, but I have to be careful not to dismiss your point of view as well because you may be who God sent to teach me something new. Just know I appreciate these conversations even if I sound a bit harsh.

HOW DO LORDSHIP SALVATIONISTS ACCUSE OTHER CHRISTIANS HYPOCRITICALLY?
Lordship Salvationists are sinful according to the Lord's command in mathew 5:48 & yet accuse christians who commit sin as "unsaved"!!!
If they had turned from their sins they would have obeyed the Lord's command in mathew 5:48!! They call Him Lord Lord in order to be saved but they don't do what He said in mathew 5:48.
In order to be saved, they have changed their mind by lowering the bar of what lordship requires in mathew 5:48 to suit their degree of sinfulness. Their concept of lordship is "diluted" & subjective and not according to mathew 5:48!!
Anyway they haven't repented according to mathew 5:48 but according to a standard which they invent subjectively. That's phoney lordship.

Premise 1: Works prove saving faith.
Premise 2: Saving faith saves.
Conclusion: Lack of works means no salvation.
Thus lordship salvation preaches the heresy of works based salvation. Simple.

Is this thread about Lordship Salvation or sinless perfection?

So, one doesn’t have to submit to the will of God to be saved? Christ doesn’t have to be their Lord in order to be saved. One doesn’t have to be guided by the Holy Spirit in order to be saved?

Bruh, you’re holding to Free Grace Theology where a person can live as they want, and since they “prayed the prayer”, they’re still saved. You’re promoting a life a lasciviousness. Congrats!

You disobey mathew 5:48 & pretend you have submitted to the will of God!!!

HOW DO LORDSHIP SALVATIONISTS ACCUSE OTHER CHRISTIANS HYPOCRITICALLY?
Lordship Salvationists are sinful according to the Lord's command in mathew 5:48 & yet accuse christians who commit sin as "unsaved"!!!
If they had turned from their sins they would have obeyed the Lord's command in mathew 5:48!! They call Him Lord Lord in order to be saved but they don't do what He said in mathew 5:48.
In order to be saved, they have changed their mind by lowering the bar of what lordship requires in mathew 5:48 to suit their degree of sinfulness. Their concept of lordship is "diluted" & subjective and not according to mathew 5:48!!
Anyway they haven't repented according to mathew 5:48 but according to a standard which they invent subjectively. That's phoney lordship.

Hm, what is wrong with this Statement? If someone claimes to be a Christian, of course I would also look how he is acting. None of us lives sinless, but there should be something to be seen that we at least want to live different then the world. I know that I do not always. But the Holy Spirit reminds me, when I am doing something wrong.