Re: Thread On Catholic And Other Religions

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Bede

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Dino246 said:
What is the point of discussing non-biblical fantasies such as the immaculate conception? There is no possible way to make that a biblical doctrine.
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Good to know you haven't prejudged that which you have yet to prove..

Dino246 said:
This ain't about me, period.
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No, not you - just your errors

Dino246 said:
Are you here to discuss the actual content of the Bible, or to defend the fantasies of a corrupt, deviant organization?
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Good to know you haven't prejudged that which you have yet to prove..
 
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Bede

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Jackson123 said:
To me catholic is not Christian. Is that mean l hate catholic?

No Jesus say love your enemy. Love mean not Lie to your enemy.

If you love than you tell the truth. Catholic teaching is not Christian teaching.

So tell them to back to the bible. Out of love, not out of hate, they teach to pray to Mary. That is danger, because they not realy pray to Mary. It is spirit of darkness that pretend to be Mary.

Some years ago my neighbors pray to Mary, than Mary appear to her, Mary asked her to fast, she did and almost die, If not her neighbors call ambulance and took her to the hospital.
This religion more danger than muslim, we know muslim not from the Lord, but catholic, some people think It is Christian, more cunning. Yes God want unity among believer but God want us seperate from idol worshiper though we have to love them.

Matt 10
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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After that rant I will consider your opinions worthless.
 
MyrtleTrees

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Relic said:
Disclosure: My religion is directly to and from my Divine Father
It is Him and only Him from whom I take direction.

It is amusing though that with thousands of denominations how the Christian faith directly from Christ
Has been shredded into who is right and who is wrong and Catholics are not Christian and Latter Day Saints
don't belong as a Christians. Let me settle this once and for all. Jesus said love the Lord your God and
your neighbor as yourself, that was the one and only commandment of Jesus. He went on to illustrate
that if you don't love your neighbor and say you love God, you're a liar. I really don't sense much fuzzy
love in much that is written on this site. If Jesus was here today, He would be pulling His hair out at
the stupidity. When we surrender our hearts to God and we make a mistake, God did not say He will kill us.
If someone sees something different than you do. And remember Jesus came to unite and not destroy.

God bless you all and please
Love your neighbor
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Yes, loving others is an important theme, in the Bible! But we as humans fail to love with a perfect degree of love, compared to God, who loves people more than anyone else. Still, we are to prayerfully strive to be as loving as is possible to others in daily life, and to repent whenever we fail to do well at loving others. It's true that if people consistently show a lack of love towards others, it is a bad reflection on the quality of their relationships with God. Do you know Jesus as your Savior and Lord, too, by the way? It's true that God is one God, but has 3 parts and all 3 parts represent Him. Some people believe in God the Father, but don't know that Jesus was God in the flesh, too. It's important to understand that, in order to obtain the gift of salvation, as the Bible shows it to be a necessity.
 
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Bede

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oyster67 said:
I feel that the rational thing for Christians to do would be to dispose of all things denominational and simply follow Christ and His Word. Heavenly unity should be our(Christians) goal even now.
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Ideally yes. But people don't agree on what Jesus taught.
 
MyrtleTrees

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JaumeJ said:
The Catholic and Protestant faiths are denominations, all of which are under the umbrell of Christian or Christianity.
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Catholics do not seek forgiveness through Jesus alone. They also pray to dead saints, when God's Word forbids praying to anyone except for to Himself.
Matt 4:10

10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
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MyrtleTrees

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Bede said:
Ideally yes. But people don't agree on what Jesus taught.
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Christians - even sincere, diligent Christians are not able to understand the scriptures the same on all points. That's because they are human and not as wise as God. The important thing, above all, is to know the way of salvation, and to accept Jesus as Savior of one's life, and to be prayerfully willing to live according to it in daily life.
 
Relic

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Jackson123 said:
To me catholic is not Christian. Is that mean l hate catholic?

No Jesus say love your enemy. Love mean not Lie to your enemy.

If you love than you tell the truth. Catholic teaching is not Christian teaching.

So tell them to back to the bible. Out of love, not out of hate, they teach to pray to Mary. That is danger, because they not realy pray to Mary. It is spirit of darkness that pretend to be Mary.

Some years ago my neighbors pray to Mary, than Mary appear to her, Mary asked her to fast, she did and almost die, If not her neighbors call ambulance and took her to the hospital.
This religion more danger than muslim, we know muslim not from the Lord, but catholic, some people think It is Christian, more cunning. Yes God want unity among believer but God want us seperate from idol worshiper though we have to love them.

Matt 10
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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truly I was not beating on Catholics as my headline said Catholic and other religions, means all others
 
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Bede

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MyrtleTrees said:
Catholics do not seek forgiveness through Jesus alone. They also pray to dead saints, when God's Word forbids praying to anyone except for to Himself.
Matt 4:10

10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
KJV
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Forgiveness comes from God alone but consider this:
And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 2If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.” (John 20:22-23 RSV)

We pray in worship but praying in itself is not worship.

Also both the words worship and pray have multiple meanings.
 
Relic

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Dino246 said:
"Latter Day Saints" are NOT Christians. They teach that God the Father was once a human being, and that humans may become gods equal to Him.

As for Catholics, many of their doctrines are distinctly unbiblical and even contra-biblical. You cannot be a Catholic and reject their unbiblical doctrines, therefore the Catholic organization is not Christian.

Aside from that, Jesus knows those who are His, and He has redeemed them. He will sift the wheat from the chaff at the judgment.
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I gave 2 examples but my title was catholic and other religions and my point was they are
all different otherwise they would not be designated as different I was not picking
them out especially....the rest of my comments stand and I was not by any means
saying catholics are right or wront... that is up to God ....God bless
 
Relic

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Dino246 said:
"Latter Day Saints" are NOT Christians. They teach that God the Father was once a human being, and that humans may become gods equal to Him.

As for Catholics, many of their doctrines are distinctly unbiblical and even contra-biblical. You cannot be a Catholic and reject their unbiblical doctrines, therefore the Catholic organization is not Christian.

Aside from that, Jesus knows those who are His, and He has redeemed them. He will sift the wheat from the chaff at the judgment.
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my title was catholics and other religions so it meant I just picked those off hand...there are
thousands of other religions, all of which are probably different or they would not use
different monikers
 
tourist

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Relic said:
so do you think God will kill them?
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No, I don't believe that He will. One day Jesus was teaching a small group of His followers. He said that there were others that were not of this fold and that He must gather them in too.
 
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MyrtleTrees said:
Yes, loving others is an important theme, in the Bible! But we as humans fail to love with a perfect degree of love, compared to God, who loves people more than anyone else. Still, we are to prayerfully strive to be as loving as is possible to others in daily life, and to repent whenever we fail to do well at loving others. It's true that if people consistently show a lack of love towards others, it is a bad reflection on the quality of their relationships with God. Do you know Jesus as your Savior and Lord, too, by the way? It's true that God is one God, but has 3 parts and all 3 parts represent Him. Some people believe in God the Father, but don't know that Jesus was God in the flesh, too. It's important to understand that, in order to obtain the gift of salvation, as the Bible shows it to be a necessity.
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Thank you myrtle trees...you are the only one who clearly understood what I posted

God bless you.
 
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Relic said:
truly I was not beating on Catholics as my headline said Catholic and other religions, means all others
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I don't know must about other religion, but catholic us critical, because a Lot of people think It as Christian.
 
Nehemiah6

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Relic said:
And remember Jesus came to unite and not destroy.
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I believe you are seriously mistaken in this. Christ only unites the true children of God. Not all of Christendom. The fact that there are at least two dozen major denominations means that you are duty bound to determine which have the true Gospel and the truth, and which do not. Also those who are converted to Christ are automatically at variance with the rest of their unsaved family members.

MATTHEW 10: CHRIST DIVIDES THE WHEAT FROM THE CHAFF
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. [Note: a sword cleaves where it strikes]
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
 
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Ah yes, the Catholics... the castaways, the not of God believers... even though it is written "all who believe Jesus came in the flesh is of God"... The believers that everyone loves to hate, the group of believers with false religion.

Anyone who hates another brother has a father called the devil
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
I believe you are seriously mistaken in this. Christ only unites the true children of God. Not all of Christendom. The fact that there are at least two dozen major denominations means that you are duty bound to determine which have the true Gospel and the truth, and which do not. Also those who are converted to Christ are automatically at variance with the rest of their unsaved family members.

MATTHEW 10: CHRIST DIVIDES THE WHEAT FROM THE CHAFF
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. [Note: a sword cleaves where it strikes]
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
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Relic

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fact is Jesus set those free who believe in Him so it is not up to us to judge that.
 
Dino246

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Bede said:
Good to know you haven't prejudged that which you have yet to prove..


No, not you - just your errors


Good to know you haven't prejudged that which you have yet to prove..
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Prejudged? I've read the entire Bible many times. The immaculate conception of Mary simply isn't there. I have also read enough material on the Catholic "church" to know what it holds dear. I need prove nothing to you.
 
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