The Lord Jesus and His Holy Scriptures are One (The Scripture Personified) Pt. 1 & 2

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
ChosenbyHim

ChosenbyHim

Senior Member
#1
Sep 19, 2011
3,343
113
63
#1
Well brethren, after these two videos are posted. I plan to post 2 more video teachings also after this. And I am simply posting these other messages to make sure I am continuing to do my part in sharing with you all on here the truth on this very important matter. For those who have hardened your heart regarding this matter, I do pray that God will lead you to repentance. And that you will return back to His blessed and authoritative word, the King James Holy Scripture. In addition, after this, All I can do is encourage and exhort you to take the time to watch and listen to them. And for those of you that have already made up your mind to not to even watch them, well then that's on you. I cannot persuade you to do otherwise. Only the Lord God can open your eyes to His word, the blessed King James Holy Bible.


Video Description:

In this video series, we will be looking at a very unique subject and that is by far one of the most important subject matters out there. Since it is a subject that deals with the blessed and wonderful Lord Jesus Christ and the relationship, unity and oneness which He has with His word, the holy Scriptures. And how they are in fact one and the same. Make sure to follow along in your King James Bibles as we go through this important study together.
 
ChosenbyHim

ChosenbyHim

Senior Member
#2
Sep 19, 2011
3,343
113
63
#2
The Lord Jesus and His Holy Scriptures are One (The Scripture Personified, Pt. 2)


Video Description:

In this video series, we will be looking at a very unique subject and that is by far one of the most important subject matters out there. Since it is a subject that deals with the blessed and wonderful Lord Jesus Christ and the relationship, unity and oneness which He has with His word, the holy Scriptures. And how they are in fact one and the same. Make sure to follow along in your King James Bibles as we go through this important study together.
 
CS1

CS1

Well-known member
#3
May 23, 2012
13,111
4,374
113
#3
ChosenbyHim said:
Well brethren, after these two videos are posted. I plan to post 2 more video teachings also after this. And I am simply posting these other messages to make sure I am continuing to do my part in sharing with you all on here the truth on this very important matter. For those who have hardened your heart regarding this matter, I do pray that God will lead you to repentance. And that you will return back to His blessed and authoritative word, the King James Holy Scripture. In addition, after this, All I can do is encourage and exhort you to take the time to watch and listen to them. And for those of you that have already made up your mind to not to even watch them, well then that's on you. I cannot persuade you to do otherwise. Only the Lord God can open your eyes to His word, the blessed King James Holy Bible.


Video Description:

In this video series, we will be looking at a very unique subject and that is by far one of the most important subject matters out there. Since it is a subject that deals with the blessed and wonderful Lord Jesus Christ and the relationship, unity and oneness which He has with His word, the holy Scriptures. And how they are in fact one and the same. Make sure to follow along in your King James Bibles as we go through this important study together.
Click to expand...
I just want to say the KJV is not perfect it has what is known as copies discrepancies. Yet God is Perfect and HIS word. Men who copied it were not.

it is known truth that many copies used to make what we know as the KJV Bible was not found in earlier manuscript copies. Some things were added. Yet This doesn't limit the truth of Who Christ is revealed in the KJV Bible. I do trust the KJV. I do not think the pre-1984 NIV is a bad translation. I read both parallel to each other along with a NASB and an NLT. Relationship with Christ is able to be achieved in each for salvation in Christ. When the word of God is preached using anyone of these Bibles. I have personally led people to Christ using all of them.

This is more about pride than it is truth. And even less about edification.
 
ChosenbyHim

ChosenbyHim

Senior Member
#4
Sep 19, 2011
3,343
113
63
#4
CS1 said:
I just want to say the KJV is not perfect it has what is known as copies discrepancies. Yet God is Perfect and HIS word. Men who copied it were not.
Click to expand...

CS1, I understand that you believe that know that God is perfect. But how is it sir that you will not take the next logical step to understand that since God is perfect, that His word also must be perfect and infallible?


CS1 said:
it is known truth that many copies used to make what we know as the KJV Bible was not found in earlier manuscript copies. Some things were added.
Click to expand...

CS1, what earlier manuscript copies are you referring to? Is it the Siniaticus and Vaticanus manuscripts that you are speaking of?


CS1 said:
Yet This doesn't limit the truth of Who Christ is revealed in the KJV Bible. I do trust the KJV.
Click to expand...

Well CS1, I am glad that you at least have some trust in the King James Bible. But what I would encourage and exhort you to do sir, is to go on unto perfection and to have complete faith and trust in the blessed King James Holy Bible. For it is indeed the very word of God. It is pure and without error.


CS1 said:
I do not think the pre-1984 NIV is a bad translation. I read both parallel to each other along with a NASB and an NLT. Relationship with Christ is able to be achieved in each for salvation in Christ. When the word of God is preached using anyone of these Bibles. I have personally led people to Christ using all of them.
Click to expand...

CS1, I do also understand that people can get saved from reading a modern version. For the Gospel can even be found in some of the worst and grossest perversions out there.

Still though, we do need the perfect and pure word of God. We need the perfect word of God, so that we can grow up in our faith and go on unto perfection and maturity and be complete (2 Timothy 3:16)


CS1 said:
This is more about pride than it is truth. And even less about edification.
Click to expand...

Why sir do you claim this to be more about pride?

I know that without Jesus Christ and that without His word, the King James Bible, that I am absolutely nothing and less than nothing.
 
p_rehbein

p_rehbein

Senior Member
#5
Sep 4, 2013
30,741
6,907
113
#5
ChosenbyHim said:
Well brethren, after these two videos are posted. I plan to post 2 more video teachings also after this. And I am simply posting these other messages to make sure I am continuing to do my part in sharing with you all on here the truth on this very important matter. For those who have hardened your heart regarding this matter, I do pray that God will lead you to repentance. And that you will return back to His blessed and authoritative word, the King James Holy Scripture. In addition, after this, All I can do is encourage and exhort you to take the time to watch and listen to them. And for those of you that have already made up your mind to not to even watch them, well then that's on you. I cannot persuade you to do otherwise. Only the Lord God can open your eyes to His word, the blessed King James Holy Bible.
Click to expand...
Oh, ok.............this is a KJV ONLY Thread...........ok............

Now, while I love my KJV, I ALSO enjoy reading the CJB and find it is very close to the KJV and the two do a good job of educating me. BUT, THE REAL POWER ONE NEEDS TO FULLY AND CORRECTLY UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURE IS THE INDWELLING PRESENCE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

For, without Him, folks just be reading............
 
KJV1611

KJV1611

Banned
#6
Nov 23, 2013
13,684
1,212
113
#6
CS1 said:
I just want to say the KJV is not perfect it has what is known as copies discrepancies. Yet God is Perfect and HIS word. Men who copied it were not.

it is known truth that many copies used to make what we know as the KJV Bible was not found in earlier manuscript copies. Some things were added. Yet This doesn't limit the truth of Who Christ is revealed in the KJV Bible. I do trust the KJV. I do not think the pre-1984 NIV is a bad translation. I read both parallel to each other along with a NASB and an NLT. Relationship with Christ is able to be achieved in each for salvation in Christ. When the word of God is preached using anyone of these Bibles. I have personally led people to Christ using all of them.

This is more about pride than it is truth. And even less about edification.
Click to expand...
You're not perfect, can God speak a perfect message through you?
 
Dino246

Dino246

Senior Member
#7
Jun 30, 2015
25,587
13,857
113
#7
KJV1611 said:
You're not perfect, can God speak a perfect message through you?
Click to expand...
Your question is rooted in erroneous thinking that God is somehow limited by the medium through which He speaks. Is your god so small?
 
KJV1611

KJV1611

Banned
#8
Nov 23, 2013
13,684
1,212
113
#8
Dino246 said:
Your question is rooted in erroneous thinking that God is somehow limited by the medium through which He speaks. Is your god so small?
Click to expand...
Erroneous my rear end. My God can speak through any person, any language and can translate his word into any language.
 
Dino246

Dino246

Senior Member
#9
Jun 30, 2015
25,587
13,857
113
#9
KJV1611 said:
Erroneous my rear end. My God can speak through any person, any language and can translate his word into any language.
Click to expand...
So either your question to CS1 was disingenuous, or you hold to contradictory beliefs.

If "My God can speak through any person, any language and can translate his word into any language" then surely He can "speak a perfect message through" an imperfect medium.
 
KJV1611

KJV1611

Banned
#10
Nov 23, 2013
13,684
1,212
113
#10
Dino246 said:
So either your question to CS1 was disingenuous, or you hold to contradictory beliefs.

If "My God can speak through any person, any language and can translate his word into any language" then surely He can "speak a perfect message through" an imperfect medium.
Click to expand...
Maybe I misinterpreted CS1. I took his statement as saying God is prefect but the men who copied his word are not. Meaning God couldn't give us his inerrant word because the men who copied God's word were not perfect.
 
Dan_473

Dan_473

Senior Member
#11
Mar 11, 2014
9,054
1,051
113
#11
hi @ChosenbyHim
nice to meet you!

I'm not much of a video watcher,
but,
if you'd like to have an edifying, respectful discussion about Bible versions, I'm all in!

one thing I learned about the KJV a while back,
is that it isn't public domain all over the world.

the Queen of England holds the "copyright" in the UK.

now, this is just my opinion here,
but it seems strange that God would inspire a version and then give a single human that much control over it.
 
Magenta

Magenta

Senior Member
#12
Jul 3, 2015
61,104
30,232
113
#12
KJV1611 said:
My God can speak through any person, any language and can translate his word into any language.
Click to expand...
Animals, too :)

The ass said unto Balaam, Am not I thine ass, upon which thou hast ridden ever since
I was thine unto this day? was I ever wont to do so unto thee? and he said, Nay.
 
KJV1611

KJV1611

Banned
#13
Nov 23, 2013
13,684
1,212
113
#13
Magenta said:
Animals, too :)

The ass said unto Balaam, Am not I thine ass, upon which thou hast ridden ever since
I was thine unto this day? was I ever wont to do so unto thee? and he said, Nay.
Click to expand...
And a dumb ass at that lol.

2Pe_2:16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.
 
R

Runningman

Banned
#14
Mar 4, 2020
8,614
3,691
113
#14
ChosenbyHim said:
Well brethren, after these two videos are posted. I plan to post 2 more video teachings also after this. And I am simply posting these other messages to make sure I am continuing to do my part in sharing with you all on here the truth on this very important matter. For those who have hardened your heart regarding this matter, I do pray that God will lead you to repentance. And that you will return back to His blessed and authoritative word, the King James Holy Scripture. In addition, after this, All I can do is encourage and exhort you to take the time to watch and listen to them. And for those of you that have already made up your mind to not to even watch them, well then that's on you. I cannot persuade you to do otherwise. Only the Lord God can open your eyes to His word, the blessed King James Holy Bible.


Video Description:

In this video series, we will be looking at a very unique subject and that is by far one of the most important subject matters out there. Since it is a subject that deals with the blessed and wonderful Lord Jesus Christ and the relationship, unity and oneness which He has with His word, the holy Scriptures. And how they are in fact one and the same. Make sure to follow along in your King James Bibles as we go through this important study together.
Click to expand...
When I was trying to become a Christian, I couldn't understand the KJV well enough to see what the gospel really is. I had no idea what it was about because the way it reads isn't modern. The learning curve was akin to learning a second language. I finally got it once I switched to the NIV. Had I not been determined and thirsting for God, I may have given up. Thank God for the NIV.

So I can't really recommend the KJV to new Christians. When one is ready to take on learning an unnatural sounding sentence structure and learning uncommon English words then the KJV is certainly one of the most, if not the single most, accurate translation written in English.
 
CS1

CS1

Well-known member
#15
May 23, 2012
13,111
4,374
113
#15
KJV1611 said:
You're not perfect, can God speak a perfect message through you?
Click to expand...
what is your point? because I said just that in the post you responded too LOL
 
KJV1611

KJV1611

Banned
#16
Nov 23, 2013
13,684
1,212
113
#16
CS1 said:
what is your point? because I said just that in the post you responded too LOL
Click to expand...
My point is that any bible that God wants to be perfect will be perfect no matter how many imperfect men are involved.
 
Dino246

Dino246

Senior Member
#17
Jun 30, 2015
25,587
13,857
113
#17
KJV1611 said:
My point is that any bible that God wants to be perfect will be perfect no matter how many imperfect men are involved.
Click to expand...
So which Bible does God want to be perfect?
 
Dino246

Dino246

Senior Member
#19
Jun 30, 2015
25,587
13,857
113
#19
KJV1611 said:
The KJV for English speakers.
Click to expand...
What makes you say that? Not, 'What makes you think the KJV is perfect' but rather, what makes you think that God thinks the KJV is perfect?
 
KJV1611

KJV1611

Banned
#20
Nov 23, 2013
13,684
1,212
113
#20
Dino246 said:
What makes you say that? Not, 'What makes you think the KJV is perfect' but rather, what makes you think that God thinks the KJV is perfect?
Click to expand...
We’ve been over this a 1000 times, no point in making it 1001.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.