Sabbath Obligation?

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WithinReason

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all of them? or the ones concerning sacrificial atonement?
These will thoroughly answer that question by the scripture:

Hmm, have you considered the entire context?

Colossians 2:14-17 - Part 1


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The ceremonial laws were affected.
 

Truth7t7

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These will thoroughly answer that question by the scripture:

The ceremonial laws were affected.
I fully agree, the 10 commandments apply to every believer today.

Genesis 2:2-3KJV
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Exodus 20:8-11KJV
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
 
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And don't forget, to keep it holy. While you are at it, please be advised that you are to be holy every other day of the week also. It has always seemed very strange to me to meet those who are very concerned about other people keeping the sabbath properly who's lives are a mess of unholy living. What is THAT all about? I am guessing that the sabbath keeping gives them some kind of justification to sin. I just don't get it.
 

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Chapter 19 - Of the Law of God.
Section 1.) God gave to Adam a law, as a covenant of works, by which He bound him and all his posterity to personal, entire, exact, and perpetual obedience; promised life upon the fulfilling, and threatened death upon the breach of it; and endued him with power and ability to keep it.(1)
(1) Ge 1:26,27; [

What scripture assumes you would know that under law means under law for salvation. Under grace means we are saved by grace. It is that stark, and that simple. It means we are saved through the grace of the Lord, not our obedience to the law. Obedience comes as a result of our receiving grace.

God is not for the scholars, God is for the children. We are to become like children, accepting the Lord as it is written---simple and straight forward.
 
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That of the sacrifices, rites, and festivals. Not of the Ten Commandments.
 

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Neither of those mention the Sabbath.
Isa 56:1 Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
Isa 56:2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
Isa 56:3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.
Isa 56:4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
Isa 56:5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
Isa 56:6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
Isa 56:7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.
Isa 56:8 The Lord GOD which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith, Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him.

Joh 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

What texts were you reading?
 

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Just gonna add a simple idea. Jesus said he fulfilled the law. If you follow Jesus' 2 commands all the ten laws are automatically falling under them. Love God, love others. Thats what the ten commandments were about. The sabbath rest was a forrunner to how our redeemed lives should be-- every day focusing on God, resting in Him, in constant communication with our Father in heaven. The old testament israelites did not have that fellowship with God. Every law, rule, feast and festival, were symbolic of our future relationship with the risen Savior, and our Father. Anything else is legalistic.
 

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I don't "seem" to be saying it; I am saying it.
You would be in error.

Num_9:3 In the fourteenth day of this month, at even, ye shall keep it in his appointed season: according to all the rites of it, and according to all the ceremonies thereof, shall ye keep it.

The "ceremonies" (which are carnal) are not the "spiritual" Law of God's Ten Commandments.
 

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As i said....LEGALISTIC.
 
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Just gonna add a simple idea. Jesus said he fulfilled the law. If you follow Jesus' 2 commands all the ten laws are automatically falling under them. Love God, love others. Thats what the ten commandments were about. The sabbath rest was a forrunner to how our redeemed lives should be-- every day focusing on God, resting in Him, in constant communication with our Father in heaven. The old testament israelites did not have that fellowship with God. Every law, rule, feast and festival, were symbolic of our future relationship with the risen Savior, and our Father. Anything else is legalistic.
Amen
 

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I agree.... but @Dino246 seems to be saying that there is no distinction of the Moral, Civil or Ceremonial
Just ask for the objective factual evidence to be provided for such a bizarre and erroneous statement. The terms "ceremonial" & "moral", &c., are even replete throughout most commentaries modern and ancient.
 

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And don't forget, to keep it holy. While you are at it, please be advised that you are to be holy every other day of the week also. It has always seemed very strange to me to meet those who are very concerned about other people keeping the sabbath properly who's lives are a mess of unholy living. What is THAT all about? I am guessing that the sabbath keeping gives them some kind of justification to sin. I just don't get it.
I'm a sinner saved by God's grace, thank you Lord Jesus!

Nobody is telling you how to live your life,
Your distraction of (Holiness) dosent delete the factual truth of scripture, the 7th day sabbath applies to all Creation, some just aren't aware of this fact.

No place in the Holy Bible has God retracted his Sanctifying or Hallowing of the 7th day Sabbath, and Man's command to follow it, and I'm not a 7th Day Adventist nor do I follow Ellen G. Whites teachings, or any offshoot thereof.

Genesis 2:2-3KJV
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Exodus 20:8-11KJV
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
 

Truth7t7

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Neither of those mention the Sabbath.

Colossians 2:16-17 just to end with. :)
Your verses quoted in Collosians 2:16-17 seen below, was speaking to the believers that were following the New Moons And Sabbath Days, that were being judged by others.

As clearly seen below in Isaiah 66:22-23 below, the New Moons And Sabbath Days Are (ETERNAL) and will be observed in the (ETERNAL) New Heavens and Earth.

Collosians 2:16-17KJV
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Isaiah 66:22-23KJV
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.
 

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Just gonna add a simple idea. Jesus said he fulfilled the law. If you follow Jesus' 2 commands all the ten laws are automatically falling under them. Love God, love others. Thats what the ten commandments were about. The sabbath rest was a forrunner to how our redeemed lives should be-- every day focusing on God, resting in Him, in constant communication with our Father in heaven. The old testament israelites did not have that fellowship with God. Every law, rule, feast and festival, were symbolic of our future relationship with the risen Savior, and our Father. Anything else is legalistic.
Keep My Commandments :)

Jesus Christ Is The Great (I Am) That Delivered The 10 Commandments To Moses.


John 14:12-21KJV
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Jesus Christ Upheld The 10 Commandments, Just One Example Below.

Matthew 15:4-9KJV

4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.