Chosen by God - A study in Election
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Yes salvation is available to all. All whom the Father grants and all whom the Father calls and all whom the Father gives to the Son.
That's what the Bible clearly declares anyways. Should you choose to differ so be it. But if you do you are running crossways to the will of the Father. In my opinion.
That's what the Bible clearly declares anyways. Should you choose to differ so be it. But if you do you are running crossways to the will of the Father. In my opinion.
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Not for bible believer s . The clue is in the most central important event in all the bible , the resurection . Just like a Catholic whos hung up on Mathew 16.18 . The Calvinist is hung up in the old testament of John 6.44 and doesn't notice the transition of things changing with the cross . The death burial and !!! RESURRECTION. Then what Happens. THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GIVEN .
Has the Gospel occurred at any time before the crucifixion?(1 cor 15 . 1-4 )
Has the Gospel occurred at any time before the crucifixion?(1 cor 15 . 1-4 )
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/3-16.htm
More properly and correctly stated:
"so that everyone believing in Him" .........not whoever and not whomsoever.
When correctly stated, these verses do not conflict with John ch 6 at all.
More properly and correctly stated:
"so that everyone believing in Him" .........not whoever and not whomsoever.
When correctly stated, these verses do not conflict with John ch 6 at all.
John 3:15
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/3-15.htm
"so that everyone believing in Him"
Precisely the same statement!
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/3-15.htm
"so that everyone believing in Him"
Precisely the same statement!
What gets me about that is they can't see the arrogance in that statement, since we're not questioning God's ways we're questioning an interpretation by men. So they are elevating themselves to the position of God in order to avoid having their system questioned. Pure, unadulterated pride.
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Calvinists tend to think themselves knowledgable and get puffed up by that "knowledge." The pride isn't a matter of whether the doctrine itself brings pride, though it certainly seems to just like the Jewish man who was "thankful" God didn't make him a woman or a gentile was full of pride despite having nothing to do with being made a jew.
The pride is evident when the Calvinist is challenged in their system they equate their system to God's word rather than recognizing it as an interpretation by men.
The pride is evident when the Calvinist is challenged in their system they equate their system to God's word rather than recognizing it as an interpretation by men.
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