Speculation for a seemingly biblical contradiction

But isn’t earth a physical world? If God created earth as a physical place inhabited by the flesh and blood physical beings, why is it senseless to assume in all of the cosmos of stars and planets we know physically exist, we would reject any idea that other physical inhabited worlds of God’s creation also exist? Why is it senseless to imagine that there are other physically populated worlds not condemned by sin and perfectly existing in pure loving everlasting life whereby earth’s saints taken alive by God have, (for lack of other words), been transplanted?

Therefore we see that Moses who had died (though his body was buried by God) and Elijah who did not die seem to be dwelling in the same place in a spiritual world at this present time or at least existing in a spiritual world together at the time of the transfiguration and allowed to be seen by the

What do you think of the argument between St. Michael and Satan about the body of Moses? Can it's outcome pertain to the meaning of Moses at the Trsnsfiguration?

Buried by the Lord.....Does that mean that Moses died and was buried? No doubt about it? Did the Lord ever bury anyone else. Sorry for so many questions. I find your posts a good read from a well trained mind.

My opinions here are simply speculation ^ pure unproven opinion

It seems that common sense would have it that Enoch and Elijah either “ascended” to earth from heaven, or didn’t go to heaven.

In John 3:13, Jesus tells us the following: “And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven” (John 3:13)

1. Enoch was raptured to Heaven supernaturally, since he lived on earth. That is what "translated" means. This pre-figured the Rapture of the Church.

Robo's original post shouted loud and clear that he was seeking debate, not knowledge.

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It seems that common sense would have it that Enoch and Elijah either “ascended” to earth from heaven, or didn’t go to heaven. I’m subscribing to the latter with pure speculation. I speculate that in the Father’s House are many mansions, i.e. “Other worlds,” i.e. planets, thus I’m speculating that Enoch & Elijah were taken by the Lord to other perfect worlds in God’s great universe? What’s your opinion?

I answered that question biblically and right away Robo gets combative. Another person gave biblical answers and he too was confronted by Robo. Obviously Robo does not like scripture. He didn't want answers from the bible. Same as all the "un-born".

This subject is done to death by now and I for one am over this inanity. I see his ploy now is to ensnare you birds into a useless debate of things he imagines can make a mockery of scripture. That IS what trolls do.

REMEMBER TO NOT GO BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE. (Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively applied to myself and Apollos for your sakes, so that in us you may learn not to exceed what is written, 1 COR 4:6)

Because it says Enoch did not see death. The understanding of the Hebrews, and of course Paul was that he was translated to "the other side" without dying. Also to be taken up into heaven (Elijah) is an interpretation of being taken into that "spiritual world" called heaven.
Elijah and Moses were seen talking with Jesus on the mount of Transfiguration, and they discussed Jesus upcoming crucifixion. Therefore we see that Moses who had died (though his body was buried by God) and Elijah who did not die seem to be dwelling in the same place in a spiritual world at this present time or at least existing in a spiritual world together at the time of the transfiguration and allowed to be seen by the three apostles as they witnessed the power of the coming of the son of man, and the glory that they will inherit when Jesus comes back. Also as previously mentioned the great crowd of witnesses are made up of those who have died in Heb 11 and include Enoch who did not die but is with that crowd as the great crowd of witnesses. The understanding being that they are all in a spiritual realm we call heaven only because we don't know what else to call it and God has not explained it all yet.

Though the idea of other planets hosting life are intriguing they are physical and not spiritual so why would Elijah live on a planet and then come visit Jesus with Moses on the mount. Seems more likely that Moses and Elijah came from the same place that day don't you think? A spiritual realm.

If you felt gaslighted, too, then you were not alone. Jesus told us we will recognize them by their fruits. Stay vigilant, stay alert.

Just so you'll know sir, I'm a little bit sick and tired of your accusations that I'm a disciple of Satan! I'll pray for you!

I never called you a disciple of Satan. It isn't helpful to keep making false accusations.

I'm saying that you are proposing Bible contradictions where there actually aren't any. The word of God is without error. Why should we even entertain the scenario the Bible has errors in it if we know there aren't any?

What's with being perpetually offended over this? Let's take a step back and just try to answer these important questions and see if we can at least find some common ground.

Just so you'll know sir, I'm a little bit sick and tired of your accusations that I'm a disciple of Satan! I'll pray for you!

Wouldn't it be nice if you did answer the questions instead of labeling me a troll, i.e. a disciple of Satan?

I never claimed the bible had errors, I claimed it had "SEEMING" contradictions and my quest is simply seeking those "answers" you're now claiming you'd like to entertain. Have at it Runningman!

I don't know why, but there are always a number of well-meaning folks who may or may not have maturity in knowledge of scripture, that feel they MUST correct, defend and soothe the trolls.

They call it evangelism or defending the faith........I say they lack discernment and are casting PEARLS.

I don't know if he is a troll or just immature but from what I have seen how responds to correction and sound advice I would say I misjudged his fruits. He has been given sound and wise advice I have even tried to help him personally but it seems he has no intention of taking any advice so I am beginning to think I misjudged his character unless he can prove me wrong and actually listen to others and not attack in retaliation then I admit to be being wrong in my assesment to him

And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: Gen 5:23

Enoch only shows that the 1,000 years isn't guaranteed.

Yea, though he live a thousand years twice told, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place? Eccl 6:6
For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night. Ps 90:4

So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom. Ps 90:12

Your testimony is not important to me, I stand with the apostle Paul when I say that Jesus Christ and Him crucified is MY testimony,
1 Cor. 2:2 For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified.

It was not a testimony it was me owning to up that I may have been wrong and explaining why for one who says I am immature in discernment you didn't seem to discern my post