When are we saved ?
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Thank you for your kind words
I say we are justified only when we believe for several reasons. Two should be enough here.
1. Paul teaches that we are justified by faith.
2. The gospel of John states “ whoever believes is not condemned,whoever does not believe is condemned already, for He has not believed the testimony God has given concerning His Son.
I say we are justified only when we believe for several reasons. Two should be enough here.
1. Paul teaches that we are justified by faith.
2. The gospel of John states “ whoever believes is not condemned,whoever does not believe is condemned already, for He has not believed the testimony God has given concerning His Son.
If people can say my posts sound Calvinistic, I can say that some people’s posts sound like people think that we give God the power or authority to save us.
Not speaking of you personally
Faith is not something that earns points with God. We are granted the right to believe by God.
The faith that pleases God pleases Him because the righteousness of the Son who pleased and pleases the Father is imputed to us.
I will boast in what Christ has done...and that alone!
Not speaking of you personally
Faith is not something that earns points with God. We are granted the right to believe by God.
The faith that pleases God pleases Him because the righteousness of the Son who pleased and pleases the Father is imputed to us.
I will boast in what Christ has done...and that alone!
Respectfully, I would like to correct you. I did not say that the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Ghost were two different beings. I said that they were both the Holy Spirit that has two different functions, The quickening Spirit, and the revelator Spirit.
Do you realise that in Jesus's days on earth the biggest part of society thought Jesus's doctrine was to far out to believe, and it seems to be the same attitude in this day and time.
Do you realise that in Jesus's days on earth the biggest part of society thought Jesus's doctrine was to far out to believe, and it seems to be the same attitude in this day and time.
It is good that we can reason together. John 3:18, He that believeth on him is not condemned, but he that believeth not is condemned already. I do not know your views on the depraved nature of mankind by his fleshly nature, but I believe that the scriptures teach, according to Paul, that although we have been born again, we still do carry the baggage of our fleshly nature with us as long as we live, and struggle with the flesh against the Spirit. With that thought in mind, the word "condemned," in John 3:18, does not mean, according to Strong's, condemned to hell, but to punish, or call in question.
This is the reason that I think that it harmonizes with 2 Tim 2:13, For if they believe not, yet he abideth faithful, he cannot deny himself. I believe there are some regenerated people who do not believe, but because they are in Christ, and Christ is in them, he cannot deny himself. Therefore, I believe that the scriptures teach that believing is not the cause of our eternal inheritance, but is a product of eternal salvation to some people.
This is the reason that I think that it harmonizes with 2 Tim 2:13, For if they believe not, yet he abideth faithful, he cannot deny himself. I believe there are some regenerated people who do not believe, but because they are in Christ, and Christ is in them, he cannot deny himself. Therefore, I believe that the scriptures teach that believing is not the cause of our eternal inheritance, but is a product of eternal salvation to some people.
