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Lynx

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Maybe some of you ladies in this forum can help me with a question. Why do some women not have a concept of "later" when asking somebody to do something? For some women it is always either "now" or "never."

GIRL: "Honey could you take out the trash?"
GUY: "Yeah, in a minute. Just gotta get to the next save point."

At this point the girl does one or more of four things:
A - She takes out the trash herself.
B - She mentions the trash to the guy once every 5.7 seconds until he either takes it out or loses his temper.
C - She sulks in the corner and mutters about how he never does anything she asks.
D - She calls a friend or three to complain about how distant he is.

I have never seen a single man do this, but I see women doing it all the time. If you tell some women any variant of "not right now, but I'll get to it later" they take it as "I will never do what you requested."

Ladies? Any help here? I'm a guy so I can't understand this. To me it makes anti-sense. Maybe you can comprehend why some women do this, and explain it in a way we guys can understand?
 

TabinRivCA

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E - She knows her guy is sincere/cool so if he is in the middle of something, she can rest assure he will get to it asap. That's my rendition:cool:(y) and uh I don't think I would settle for less:)
 
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If you're at home playing a game and your lady friend starts harassing you about the garbage every 5.7 seconds, complaining about you to her friends friends within hearing range, or crying because you didn't instantly take the trash out then that sounds like they are just really unhappy.

If that happened to me I would feel severely disrespected. I imagine living under the same roof with that sort of treatment is hard.

You can try setting boundaries and dividing up chore responsibilities. Talk it out and pray about it. I hope that helps.
 

TabinRivCA

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Maybe some of you ladies in this forum can help me with a question. Why do some women not have a concept of "later" when asking somebody to do something? For some women it is always either "now" or "never."

GIRL: "Honey could you take out the trash?"
GUY: "Yeah, in a minute. Just gotta get to the next save point."

At this point the girl does one or more of four things:
A - She takes out the trash herself.
B - She mentions the trash to the guy once every 5.7 seconds until he either takes it out or loses his temper.
C - She sulks in the corner and mutters about how he never does anything she asks.
D - She calls a friend or three to complain about how distant he is.

I have never seen a single man do this, but I see women doing it all the time. If you tell some women any variant of "not right now, but I'll get to it later" they take it as "I will never do what you requested."

Ladies? Any help here? I'm a guy so I can't understand this. To me it makes anti-sense. Maybe you can comprehend why some women do this, and explain it in a way we guys can understand?
Another dreamy scenario: Girl; Honey, could u take out the trash" Guy: Yeah, in a minute. Just gotta get to the next point.
F - Ok, babe, thank you, you rock:love: Give us gals some credit, k?
Whoa, I didn't derail this did I:oops: sorry gotta be real.
 

Ruby123

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Another dreamy scenario: Girl; Honey, could u take out the trash" Guy: Yeah, in a minute. Just gotta get to the next point.
F - Ok, babe, thank you, you rock:love: Give us gals some credit, k?
Whoa, I didn't derail this did I:oops: sorry gotta be real.
This sounds like a good scenario Tabs (y)
 

JaumeJ

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To the op, I have seen this kind of behavior in couples on sitcoms and the like, but not ever in my families.

Even in those that ended in divorce I did not see this type of behavior... Am I missing something?
 

seoulsearch

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Maybe some of you ladies in this forum can help me with a question. Why do some women not have a concept of "later" when asking somebody to do something? For some women it is always either "now" or "never."

GIRL: "Honey could you take out the trash?"
GUY: "Yeah, in a minute. Just gotta get to the next save point."

At this point the girl does one or more of four things:
A - She takes out the trash herself.
B - She mentions the trash to the guy once every 5.7 seconds until he either takes it out or loses his temper.
C - She sulks in the corner and mutters about how he never does anything she asks.
D - She calls a friend or three to complain about how distant he is.

I have never seen a single man do this, but I see women doing it all the time. If you tell some women any variant of "not right now, but I'll get to it later" they take it as "I will never do what you requested."

Ladies? Any help here? I'm a guy so I can't understand this. To me it makes anti-sense. Maybe you can comprehend why some women do this, and explain it in a way we guys can understand?
Sometimes it's a lot more than a simple matter of "just taking out the trash." Have you ever been in a situation where something in particular bothers your senses, or is making you sick?

Last year I spent some time with friends who loved to cook, which was wonderful. Except that they also used a lot of fresh ingredients (which is again, wonderful,) but this also meant that they would be left with piles of scraps that got thrown into a giant waste basket. Trash came once a week, and because trash bags are expensive (which I understand,) they only changed the bag when it was about ready to burst.

In the meantime, whenever I passed through the kitchen, my senses were caught up in a pungent odor of rotting onions, peppers, and various scraps of produce, as well as remnants from other odiferous substances like rotting chicken and fish. Yum.

Lynx, after we met in person, you've told me that I am someone who is too polite for my own good. I can't say that's 100% true, but I can say that I was trying to be polite in this particular situation. Most people get used to whatever environment they live in and don't realize it might be uncomfortable for an outsider. For example, I have also stayed with friends who kept their cat litter box in their dining room,. and that was normal to them but a little horrifying to me (though it made sticking to a diet easy, that's for sure.) But as a guest, I don't want to impose and I certainly don't want to try to tell them how to live, so I just rolled with the... litter, and said nothing.

As for the situation with the kitchen trash, I also didn't say a word about how the stench was making me nauseous, because I didn't want to be impolite. Rather, I offered to change the trash myself, but they said they didn't want it changed until it was absolutely full, because of how expensive garbage bags are. (When I'm at home, I use the free shopping bags from my groceries at Walmart and change my trash almost every time I throw anything fresh into it.) I eventually resorted to buying multiple boxes of baking soda and dumping it all over their trash in layers while they were at work (which helped at least a little.)

I agree with you that constant nagging, complaining, and certainly complaining to others about the situation is not the proper way to handle it. However, I am used to being around people (not as a criticism -- it's just their own way of doing things) who think things like this is no big deal because, since it doesn't bother them, they don't think it will bother anyone else either. If you ask them to take out the trash on Monday and trash comes on Friday, they're used to being perfectly fine with taking it out as the trash man is coming down the street on Friday morning. In the meantime, my eyes are burning and I have the constant feeling like I am going to violently throw up.

If I was in a situation like this with a significant other, I would hope that I could feel free to talk to him about it and explain why I was asking him to take care of it relatively soon (and if not, yes, I'd just change it myself.)

For whatever reason, I can sometimes be very sensitive to things other people don't even think about. When I've tried to speak up, they often brush it off as me exaggerating or being a big sissy, so at that point, I stop trying to explain and try to figure out how I can cope on my own without bothering anyone. But it also limits my time with people who don't take my sensitivities seriously.

Sometimes asking someone to do something and hoping they'll do it right away means that it is genuinely important that it be done promptly for one's comfort and safety, even if it's not a problem for the other person.

Unfortunately, the guys I've dated were unfortunately not very responsible, so I am used to having to do things myself rather than being able to rely on them to get it done. "Sure, I'll get to it as soon as I reach as saving point," meant they weren't going to do it at all, and the next thing you know, there would be a late fee (because they said they'd take care of such-and-such bill, and never did) or some other obligation that was put off and never fulfilled.

Which makes me appreciate guys (and people in general) who ARE responsible all the more, because I realize there ARE responsible, reliable people out there (both men and women.)

I hope you also realize that women aren't the only ones to be impatient. I know a few males who want everything done THEIR way and as soon as they say it, or they will hound the other person until it gets done. I witnessed one of them belittle someone and literally call them stupid for not meeting their expectations just a few weeks ago. It wasn't pretty.

Granted, it's also a big reason why they (the ones I know) are as successful as they've been -- it's great for getting quantitative results. But as far as dealing with interpersonal relationships with actual people who have real feelings? Not quite so much.
 

stepbystep

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Being single, I often find myself wondering why I do not take out the trash when I tell myself to. I seem to have "selective hearing" when it comes to what I say to me.
 

Lynx

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Yeah, no, this is not what I meant at all... Maybe I should use a real life example I saw yesterday at w*rk.

A woman asked a man to get something from the freezer. The man was busy with cooking food that would have burned if he had left it, so he said "In a minute." The woman immediately headed to the freezer herself, assuming she had to get her own stuff from the freezer. (For the record she did not need it right that second.)

Also, I do not mean ALL women. I don't even mean half of them. Just a few, maybe one in twelve or so. But I've never seen a man assume you mean "never" when you say "in a minute" so asking y'all ladies about this matter seemed the best bet for figuring it out.
 

Lynx

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Clarification: This thread is not about being naggy. I know a lot of guys and girls both who nag a lot. It is also not about all, most or even a good portion of women. It is only a few I have seen with this matter.

This thread is about the concept of "later" and why A FEW women do not seem to have it. If you tell them "later" they assume you mean "never."
 

Infinite_Ark

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Maybe it depends on the guy she's asking. If he procrastinates when asked to do something every time he's asked that can be the issue for her.
My brother is like that with the wife. His honey-do list typically transfers to she-do. Gets old after awhile.
 

Mak33

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I don't want to generalized but I know a few women who does this in my family, I love them but this is true, it happens. The women in my family tends to be a "little" bit dominant in a way that they are a "little" bit selfish. When she said to do somethin, means now! If you don't do it right away to her it means you're not gonna do it at all. So being this, she is kinda, bossy, she thinks highly of herself that when she said something you better drop off everything you're doing to accomodate what she wants = being selfish = impatient. Like for example, I am washing my hand at the sink and this woman tells me "wait, excuse me, let me go thru I need to wash" and expects me to move and let her thru... I am also washing aren't I? She can't wait, she is entitled, she had to come first and be the first priority, I guess in everything whether she asked someone to do a thing, she had this mentality that she had to come first. Dominant, entitled and self centered. I think at some point I have been like this before and it's irritating when you don't get to get what you wan't right away and end up doing it by myself. True story! Now I get annoyed with this kind of attitude when I see it. But everyone is different might not be the case for some though.
 

Lynx

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So we have two real good explanations so far. seoulsearch covered both and Infinite_Ark and Mak33 took turns covering them.



First explanation is, the impatient person has experience with "later" really meaning "never." There are some people in this person's life who use "later" as a way to dismiss the task, then never get around to doing it.

Question is, if you really can't get to the task at this exact minute, but you don't want this person to feel like he has to do it himself, how do you say "Dude, not everybody is worthless... if I said I'll get it in a minute, I will. Have a little faith!" without sounding rude and/or upset?



Second explanation is, the impatient person always automatically considers his task more important than anything you happen to be doing right now, and really can't understand why you do not drop everything and attend to what he wants done. To this person "later" means "That task is not as important as you think it is" which is an affront to the impatient person.

I don't even know where to start dealing with this one. Any ideas?
 
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Women understand the difference in definition of the words 'never' and 'later' so when it looks like they don't understand the difference, they actually do.

So if you say 'later' and she instantly takes it upon herself to do what she asked you to do there wasn't a miscommunication. She just doesn't have faith in you or at least wants you to think that. You want her to have faith in you so next time you will be faster to help her. You probably realize this on a subconscious level instantaneously but are too distracted to notice until later.

It's passive-aggressive so if you make a big deal about it they have plausible deniability of being at fault. It'll turn into an argument with you being the aggressor and them being the victim. They'll also maintain the upper hand and relations will be worse off than they started.

Except they don't actually want things to go badly. They want you to realize they are important and want you to genuinely want to help them. They just have no idea how to communicate this in words.

You get to be the hero here since you know all of this in advance now. You get to win major points and skip ahead several steps and take initiative when you detect they need help.
 

Lynx

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That might be worth it for a girlfriend or wife... for a cow*rker I'm not putting in that much effort. :p
 
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@Lynx, maybe she ain’t all that satisfied with that guy she’s married to? That trash can story might could be a symptom of something way deeper than a standard trash can. I dunno🤷‍♀️.