Will Jesus Christ Return To This Earth, And Take A Throne Of King David?

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Truth7t7

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Many suggest that Jesus Christ is going to return to earth, taking a throne of King David?

The scripture below warns believers against this false teaching, and the walk on christ, Jesus Christ wont be found any place upon this earth.

However the (Antichrist/Beast/Man of Sin) will, proclaiming to be Messiah to the Jews, and Jesus Christ returned to the apostate church.

Believe It Not, Go Not Forth!

Matthew 24:24-27KJV
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
 

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What are you thinking? The Jerusalem of this age of this world is of the bond woman Hagar, while the New Jerusalem to be brought down by our
Father is of the free woman, Sarah.

The Eternal throne of the Beloved (Jesus, Yeshua) will be in the New Jerusalem, never in the old.
 

Truth7t7

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What are you thinking? The Jerusalem of this age of this world is of the bond woman Hagar, while the New Jerusalem to be brought down by our
Father is of the free woman, Sarah.

The Eternal throne of the Beloved (Jesus, Yeshua) will be in the New Jerusalem, never in the old.
We agree, Jesus Christ won't take a Throne upon this existing earth.
 
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Many suggest that Jesus Christ is going to return to earth, taking a throne of King David?

The scripture below warns believers against this false teaching, and the walk on christ, Jesus Christ wont be found any place upon this earth.

However the (Antichrist/Beast/Man of Sin) will, proclaiming to be Messiah to the Jews, and Jesus Christ returned to the apostate church.

Believe It Not, Go Not Forth!

Matthew 24:24-27KJV
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Many suggest that Jesus Christ is going to return to earth, taking a throne of King David?

The scripture below warns believers against this false teaching, and the walk on christ, Jesus Christ wont be found any place upon this earth.

However the (Antichrist/Beast/Man of Sin) will, proclaiming to be Messiah to the Jews, and Jesus Christ returned to the apostate church.

Believe It Not, Go Not Forth!

Matthew 24:24-27KJV
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
So the angel Gabriel was joking to Mary in Luke 1 when he said Jesus will be given the throne of his father David?
 

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This verse indicates that Jesus will sit on the throne of David.
Luke 1.32-33
He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David; and He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and His kingdom will have no end.
 
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Many suggest that Jesus Christ is going to return to earth, taking a throne of King David?

The scripture below warns believers against this false teaching, and the walk on christ, Jesus Christ wont be found any place upon this earth.

However the (Antichrist/Beast/Man of Sin) will, proclaiming to be Messiah to the Jews, and Jesus Christ returned to the apostate church.

Believe It Not, Go Not Forth!

Matthew 24:24-27KJV
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
I will both answer your argument and bring mine.

In Matthew 24:1 the Lord Jesus provokes His disciples by declaring their icon, the Temple and House of God, to be turned into a heap of rubble. The Disciples had, by now, been under the teaching of the greatest Teacher ever for 3½ years. They were aware of Jesus' fate, of His resurrection, the giving of the Holy Spirit and of His SECOND COMING. The Parables of the Kingdom adaquately show His return to reckon with His servants and to take over the Government of this World. So in verse 3 they ask our Lord Jesus three things:
  1. When will these things happen
  2. What will be the sign of His Coming
  3. What will be the sign of the end of the age
Our Lord Jesus answers these three questions from the viewpoint of a Jew (Matt.24.3-31), from the viewpoint of His servants and Bride, the Church (Matt.24:32 - 25:30), and from the viewpoint of "ALL Nations" (Matt.25:31-46). Your proffered scripture falls within the context of all things Jewish LEADING UP TO AND INCLUDING HIS "REVEALING" (Apokalypsis - Gk.).

Because Israel refused and rejected their Messiah, they are still looking for a babe from Bethlehem and I Savior from Galilee of the Nations. Because of this looking for their Messiah, they are vulnerable and susceptible to IMPOSTERS. The Christian is not. He knows that His Savior was born in Bethlehem in and around 4 BC and returned to His Father around 30 AD. For the Christian, Christ can only come from one place - heaven, the sky and the clouds. But the Jew is looking to Bethlehem, to Egypt, to Galilee and to the wilderness.

Your proffered verses warn of this phenomena during the Church age FOR THE JEWS. They have nothing to do with whether Christ's returns to earth or not. It is a warning to Jews in this age not to be fooled by some Guru walking into Jerusalem and claiming to be "THE Christ". But I must say, as well, that just 3 verse later than your selected scripture, we have a clear and unambiguous statement that our Lord will arrive from the clouds. The Greek word for "coming" is "erchomai", which means "arrival". And in verse 27, selected by you to prove our lord NON-arrival on earth, the word "coming" in the Greek is "parousia", which means "PRESENCE". It would seem, my esteemed brother, that you cherry-picked scripture.

Let us put this down to a mistake, or that you have not yet had teachers who told you the right thing. It happens to nearly all of us for a while in our Christian walk. But now you know better. There are countless scriptures of the coming of our Lord Jesus to earth to set up an everlasting Kingdom ON EARTH. In the New Testament, three different Greek words are used. Our Lord Jesus, when he "comes", is PRESENT ("parousia"). But when he "comes" to the clouds, and later to the earth, He has "arrived" ("erchomia"). And when our Lord Jesus bursts through the clouds like lightening and is "revealed" to men, it is "apokalypsis" in the Greek. The Book of Revelation is about the REVEALING of the earth's new King - a Royal and divine king who will at once displace, defeat and replace the present Gentile rule on earth.

Acts 1:11; "Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."

Zechariah 14:4; "And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south."
 

Truth7t7

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So the angel Gabriel was joking to Mary in Luke 1 when he said Jesus will be given the throne of his father David?
Gods words speak clearly, right before your eyes, read it again.

At the resurrection and ascension to heaven, Jesus Christ fulfilled taking (David's Throne), as Jesus Christ sits at the right hand of the Father presently.

As you and many others falsely look for a future christ, to take a physical throne upon this earth?

This false belief is ripe and ready for the future (Beast/Antichrist) beware!

Acts 2:29-36KJV
29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
 
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Gods words speak clearly, right before your eyes, read it again.

At the resurrection and ascension to heaven, Jesus Christ fulfilled taking (David's Throne), as Jesus Christ sits at the right hand of the Father presently.

As you and many others falsely look for a future christ, to take a physical throne upon this earth?

This false belief is ripe and ready for the future (Beast/Antichrist) beware!

Acts 2:29-36KJV
29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Oh so you are spritualizing that promise. Alright then
 

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Many suggest that Jesus Christ is going to return to earth, taking a throne of King David?

The scripture below warns believers against this false teaching, and the walk on christ, Jesus Christ wont be found any place upon this earth.

However the (Antichrist/Beast/Man of Sin) will, proclaiming to be Messiah to the Jews, and Jesus Christ returned to the apostate church.

Believe It Not, Go Not Forth!

Matthew 24:24-27KJV
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
I bet you won't be reigning with Christ from Jerusalem.
 

Truth7t7

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This verse indicates that Jesus will sit on the throne of David.
Luke 1.32-33
He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David; and He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and His kingdom will have no end.
As You Can Clearly See, Jesus Christ Has Taken David's Throne, As He Now Sits At The Right Hand Of The Father.

Gods words speak clearly, right before your eyes, read it again.

At the resurrection and ascension to heaven, Jesus Christ fulfilled taking (David's Throne), as Jesus Christ sits at the right hand of the Father presently.

As you and many others falsely look for a future christ, to take a physical throne upon this earth?

This false belief is ripe and ready for the future (Beast/Antichrist) beware!

Acts 2:29-36KJV
29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
 

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As You Can Clearly See, Jesus Christ Has Taken David's Throne, As He Now Sits At The Right Hand Of The Father.

Gods words speak clearly, right before your eyes, read it again.

At the resurrection and ascension to heaven, Jesus Christ fulfilled taking (David's Throne), as Jesus Christ sits at the right hand of the Father presently.

As you and many others falsely look for a future christ, to take a physical throne upon this earth?

This false belief is ripe and ready for the future (Beast/Antichrist) beware!
I See You Have Taken To Overusing Capital Letters And Bold-Face Font To Emphasize Your Points.

That's A Good Way To Irritate Your Readers And Discourage Them From Continuing. It Is The Internet Equivalent Of Yelling.
 

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As You Can Clearly See, Jesus Christ Has Taken David's Throne, As He Now Sits At The Right Hand Of The Father.

Gods words speak clearly, right before your eyes, read it again.

At the resurrection and ascension to heaven, Jesus Christ fulfilled taking (David's Throne), as Jesus Christ sits at the right hand of the Father presently.

As you and many others falsely look for a future christ, to take a physical throne upon this earth?

This false belief is ripe and ready for the future (Beast/Antichrist) beware!

Acts 2:29-36KJV
29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
According to this scripture the throne of David will be in Jerusalem.

Jeremiah 17.25
Then shall there enter into the gates of this city kings and princes sitting upon the THRONE OF DAVID, riding in chariots and on horses, they, and their princes, the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of JERUSALEM: and this city shall remain for ever"
 

Truth7t7

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According to this scripture the throne of David will be in Jerusalem.

Jeremiah 17.25
Then shall there enter into the gates of this city kings and princes sitting upon the THRONE OF DAVID, riding in chariots and on horses, they, and their princes, the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of JERUSALEM: and this city shall remain for ever"
Jeremiah 17 is nothing more than the Lord speaking to Israel regarding their sin, and his warning regarding the Babylonian captivity

Jeremiah 17:1-4KJV
1 The sin of Judah is written with a pen of iron, and with the point of a diamond: it is graven upon the table of their heart, and upon the horns of your altars;
2 Whilst their children remember their altars and their groves by the green trees upon the high hills.
3 O my mountain in the field, I will give thy substance and all thy treasures to the spoil, and thy high places for sin, throughout all thy borders.
4 And thou, even thyself, shalt discontinue from thine heritage that I gave thee; and I will cause thee to serve thine enemies in the land which thou knowest not: for ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn for ever.
 

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Jeremiah 17 is nothing more than the Lord speaking to Israel regarding their sin, and his warning regarding the Babylonian captivity

Jeremiah 17:1-4KJV
1 The sin of Judah is written with a pen of iron, and with the point of a diamond: it is graven upon the table of their heart, and upon the horns of your altars;
2 Whilst their children remember their altars and their groves by the green trees upon the high hills.
3 O my mountain in the field, I will give thy substance and all thy treasures to the spoil, and thy high places for sin, throughout all thy borders.
4 And thou, even thyself, shalt discontinue from thine heritage that I gave thee; and I will cause thee to serve thine enemies in the land which thou knowest not: for ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn for ever.
I would say it is explicit in stating where the throne of David is located. Who the Lord is speaking to is not relevant as to the location of the throne of David. The verse I provided states that the throne of David is going to be in Jerusalem. Jesus may currently sitting on a throne on the right side of the Father in heaven but this throne is not the one that He will sit on in Jerusalem. The verses you provided have no mention whatsoever on the location of the throne of David nor who will be sitting on it.
 

Truth7t7

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I would say it is explicit in stating where the throne of David is located. Who the Lord is speaking to is not relevant as to the location of the throne of David. The verse I provided states that the throne of David is going to be in Jerusalem. Jesus may currently sitting on a throne on the right side of the Father in heaven but this throne is not the one that He will sit on in Jerusalem. The verses you provided have no mention whatsoever on the location of the throne of David nor who will be sitting on it.
The Throne Of David (Was) located in Jerusalem, Israel returned to Jerusalem (After) the Babylonian Captivity to David's Throne, now what? :)

At the resurrection and ascension to heaven, Jesus Christ fulfilled taking (David's Throne), as Jesus Christ sits at the right hand of the Father presently.

As you and many others falsely look for a future christ, to take a physical throne upon this earth?

This false belief is ripe and ready for the future (Beast/Antichrist) beware!

Why Do You Disregard The Clear, Simple, Fact Of Scripture In Bold Red Below?

Acts 2:29-36KJV
29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ,
that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
 

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Apparently, you have disregarding the clear simple facts of scripture that I provided. I believe that we are done here now and I will initiate no further responses to your posts.
 

Truth7t7

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Apparently, you have disregarding the clear simple facts of scripture that I provided. I believe that we are done here now and I will initiate no further responses to your posts.
Your claim was responded to and refuted soundly, Jeremiah 17 was about the Babylonian Captivity,and how Israel returned to Jerusalem and their temple after this captivity 536BC

Jesus Christ currently sits on Davids throne, at the right hand of the father.

It's a answered you might not like, but your claim has been answered.

Jesus Christ Is Lord!
 

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Your claim was responded to and refuted soundly, Jeremiah 17 was about the Babylonian Captivity,and how Israel returned to Jerusalem and their temple after this captivity 536BC

Jesus Christ currently sits on Davids throne, at the right hand of the father.

It's a answered you might not like, but your claim has been answered.

Jesus Christ Is Lord!
Jesus sits on a throne on the right side of the Father but nowhere in the bible does it say that the throne that Jesus is currently sitting on is the throne of David. The bible is clear in that the throne of David is in Jerusalem and that Jesus will be sitting on it at the appointed time. Show me the scripture that states that the throne in heaven is actually the throne of David. If so, this contradicts the scripture that states explicitly that the throne of David is in Jerusalem.
 

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throne of David is in Jerusalem.
I suspect that you have captured the main point; The New Jerusalem will come down out of Heaven to where David's Throne was. A throne represents authority.
 

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I suspect that you have captured the main point; The New Jerusalem will come down out of Heaven to where David's Throne was. A throne represents authority.
Yes, I believe that exactly this will happen. I forgot about the New Jerusalem. Another way to express that would be a Jerusalem that is new.