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KJV1611

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Magenta said:
Where are they that they can be consulted?
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They don't exist, that's my point. The originals don't exist so copies of originals can't be authenticated against them. We are only left with forensic evidence for accuracy.
 
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KJV1611 said:
A translators educated guess is called hearsay and that is not circumstantial evidence.
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The validity of manuscript evidence is not tested in a court of law and therefore the charge of "hearsay" is completely without relevance.
 
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Dino246 said:
The validity of manuscript evidence is not tested in a court of law and therefore the charge of "hearsay" is completely without relevance.
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hearsay
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SEE SYNONYMS FOR hearsay ON THESAURUS.COM
noun
unverified, unofficial information gained or acquired from another and not part of one's direct knowledge:I pay no attention to hearsay.
an item of idle or unverified information or gossip; rumor:
 
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KJV1611 said:
They don't exist, that's my point. The originals don't exist so copies of originals can't be authenticated against them. We are only left with forensic evidence for accuracy.
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We are left with a mountain of physical evidence in the form of manuscripts. Yes, they are copies, but the copies can be compared to determine which is the most likely original wording. That's the science of textual criticism.
 
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KJV1611 said:
hearsay
[ heer-sey ]SHOW IPA

SEE SYNONYMS FOR hearsay ON THESAURUS.COM
noun
unverified, unofficial information gained or acquired from another and not part of one's direct knowledge:I pay no attention to hearsay.
an item of idle or unverified information or gossip; rumor:
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Providing the definition of hearsay does not do anything to establish its relevance to this topic.
 
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KJV1611 said:
They don't exist, that's my point. The originals don't exist so copies of originals can't
be authenticated against them. We are only left with forensic evidence for accuracy.
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That is my point also :)

Based on this alone, you should see you cannot claim the KJV is the only pure English translation.

Simply because you cannot know what the originals actually said.
 
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Dino246 said:
We are left with a mountain of physical evidence in the form of manuscripts. Yes, they are copies, but the copies can be compared to determine which is the most likely original wording. That's the science of textual criticism.
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You can’t even figure out which verses belong in the Bible and which don’t. A mountain of opinions isn’t a science.
 
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Magenta said:
That is my point also :)

Based on this alone, you should see you cannot claim the KJV is the only pure English translation.

Simply because you cannot know what the originals actually said.
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I know Christ and see the character and personality of Christ all over the pages of the KJV.
 
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KJV1611 said:
I know Christ and see the character and personality of Christ all over the pages of the KJV.
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As do others using different translations :)

The KJV does not have a monopoly on this ;)
 
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Dino246 said:
Providing the definition of hearsay does not do anything to establish its relevance to this topic.
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I think you’re under the impression that hearsay only exists in a court of law. It doesn’t, it exists everywhere.
 
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UCA4J said:
well, all translations that aren't the KJV are copyright and have changed in the text, unlike the KJV. In revelation it says not to change the word of God. I have read the niv, nlt, cev and others, and, have checked them against the KJV; it's your choice which translation you read, but I recommend the KJV.
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Since when was the KJV the standard measure against which to test other translations?

Also, the KJV was printed under the 17th-century equivalent of a copyright, so your first argument is moot.

Please do some more research instead of repeating long-refuted arguments.
 
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KJV1611 said:
I think you’re under the impression that hearsay only exists in a court of law. It doesn’t, it exists everywhere.
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I think you're under the impression that it's relevant here. It isn't.
 
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Magenta said:
As do others using different translations :)
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In the other thread I brought up the different resurrections between the two translations. Which one is the right one?

Christ isn’t double minded, one of those is of Christ and the other isn’t.
 
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Dino246 said:
Since when was the KJV the standard measure against which to test other translations?
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It's not the standard for measurement, it meets the standard for being God's word.
 
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Magenta said:
As do others using different translations :)

The KJV does not have a monopoly on this ;)
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Amen...
It is kind of like saying " Only reading the KJV bible brings the good news of Salvation , you won`t find the good news in any other bible "
...xox...
 
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Rosemaryx said:
Amen...
It is kind of like saying " Only reading the KJV bible brings the good news of Salvation , you won`t find the good news in any other bible "
...xox...
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There's way more to the Christian life than making it in by the skin of your teeth. :)
 
Magenta

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KJV1611 said:
In the other thread I brought up the different resurrections between the two translations. Which one is the right one?

Christ isn’t double minded, one of those is of Christ and the other isn’t.
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I saw that, but do not know to which verses in particular you are referring.
 
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Magenta said:
I saw that, but do not know to which verses in particular you are referring.
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I posted the verses in that post, both the KJV and the NASB, they preach two different resurrections.
 
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