Conspiracy thinker vs trust

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#81
The Gospel of Jesus Christ is why the world puts a high value on human life. It has had an effect on all societies in 2000 years whether they realize it was the Gospel that changed the world or not. Saving lives and curing disease is a responsibility of a moral creature. We don't let people die if we can help it. Millions are alive and healthy today, with families of their own who will have families that were saved from death or debilitating disease because of a vaccine.
And about which vaccine are you talking? Which millions will be dead if they’d had no vaccine?
 
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#83
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Iv been called a conspiracy theorist. I said we wouldn't go back to normal. Prophecy fulfilled.
I said they would take advantage of us... Prophecy fulfilled
I predicted that they would try and vaccinate the world. Prophecy being fulfilled
I predicted that they would demonize and silence those that oppose... prophecy fulfilled
I said that it was not a pandemic. Prophecy fulfilled...

So i encourage everyone to turn off your TV and visit your local conspiracy theorist to obtain the facts
 
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Iv been called a conspiracy theorist. I said we wouldn't go back to normal. Prophecy fulfilled.
I said they would take advantage of us... Prophecy fulfilled
I predicted that they would try and vaccinate the world. Prophecy being fulfilled
I predicted that they would demonize and silence those that oppose... prophecy fulfilled
I said that it was not a pandemic. Prophecy fulfilled...

So i encourage everyone to turn off your TV and visit your local conspiracy theorist to obtain the facts
Facts: It is a virus with a at least a 2% mortality rate.
It is global.
There is a vaccine.
Vaccines are safe.
Vaccines work.
It will stamp out the virus.
Things will return to normal.
Conspiracy theorists will not concede ever.
A theory will be invented that the herd immunity was not from the vaccine. They will claim herd immunity would have happened on the same time line even if there had not been a vaccine. No amount of science will convince them other wise.

Pockets of COVID19 infections will occur among the non vaccinated for many years. A conspiracy theory will be invented (no matter how crazy it may sound) that these unvaccinated are being purposely infected by the lizard people from Qanon who want to eat their children for their DNA. Or something like that. Any theory but one that concedes to the idea of a vaccine that is safe and works.

Let's see if I am right. I will check back in 2024.
 
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#85
Facts: It is a virus with a at least a 2% mortality rate.
It is global.
There is a vaccine.
Vaccines are safe.
Vaccines work.
It will stamp out the virus.
Things will return to normal.
Conspiracy theorists will not concede ever.
A theory will be invented that the herd immunity was not from the vaccine. They will claim herd immunity would have happened on the same time line even if there had not been a vaccine. No amount of science will convince them other wise.

Pockets of COVID19 infections will occur among the non vaccinated for many years. A conspiracy theory will be invented (no matter how crazy it may sound) that these unvaccinated are being purposely infected by the lizard people from Qanon who want to eat their children for their DNA. Or something like that. Any theory but one that concedes to the idea of a vaccine that is safe and works.

Let's see if I am right. I will check back in 2024.
Ok so these are the lines in the sand we spoke about a few months ago, remember?

First lets go back to mine. Their what i said at the start of the pandemic...
I said their would be a new normal... It may go back but for now its true...
I said they would force vaccines. Hasn't happened yet but there is a lot of talk and Qantas has mandated it...
They were really my main two...
I said they would take advantage of us. I would say its happening b4 our eyes
Silencing and censoring is happening like never b4

And, most importantly, there is no pandemic... Im not saying there is no covid, right...
An epidemic is local, a pandemic is international. So by definition its not a pandemic cos its not here or NZ or China or other Asian countries

But the most compelling pieces of evidence are the data released by the CDC and health boards of around the globe...
If there is a pandemic then we should see a rise in total deaths... Lets see...

This is according to the CDC... Official data...
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This is from the Australian bureau of statistics
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Canadian health board
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I have some more but i can't find them ATM but this is empirical data... Objective evidence... From the health administrations...
There are less deaths in 2020 than previous years... No sign of a pandemic... It debunks the pandemic claim doesn't it?
 
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#86
Ok so these are the lines in the sand we spoke about a few months ago, remember?

First lets go back to mine. Their what i said at the start of the pandemic...
I said their would be a new normal... It may go back but for now its true...
I said they would force vaccines. Hasn't happened yet but there is a lot of talk and Qantas has mandated it...
They were really my main two...
I said they would take advantage of us. I would say its happening b4 our eyes
Silencing and censoring is happening like never b4

And, most importantly, there is no pandemic... Im not saying there is no covid, right...
An epidemic is local, a pandemic is international. So by definition its not a pandemic cos its not here or NZ or China or other Asian countries

But the most compelling pieces of evidence are the data released by the CDC and health boards of around the globe...
If there is a pandemic then we should see a rise in total deaths... Lets see...

This is according to the CDC... Official data...
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This is from the Australian bureau of statistics
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Canadian health board
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I have some more but i can't find them ATM but this is empirical data... Objective evidence... From the health administrations...
There are less deaths in 2020 than previous years... No sign of a pandemic... It debunks the pandemic claim doesn't it?
I don't know what you're trying to say. 360,000 have died from COVID 19 in the US since Feb of last year. I believe the numbers are legit. I don't care what you call it. Call it a nasty virus event if you like I just know that the vaccine is good news and I want to get one. I wish they would just get them to the pharmacy already.
 

Nehemiah6

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#87
To me its quite obvious that the conspiracy is to force vaccines onto everyone and some kind of verification/tracking system...
You've hit the nail on the head. All the governments of the world have finally discovered how they can simply establish totalitarianism in their countries through the pretense of protecting the health of the publish.

The scamdemic hoax has turned out to be a boon to all the petty tyrants who have destroyed the lives of millions. Yes, they do want to force this bogus vaccine on absolutely everyone, and then track people through the micro-needle tips (residues) that remain.
 

Nehemiah6

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#88
I don't know what you're trying to say. 360,000 have died from COVID 19 in the US since Feb of last year.
You forgot to add the word "allegedly" before "died". BIG DIFFERENCE.

The reported deaths have been essentially bogus. Even Dr. Deborah Birx (one of the co-conspirators) publicly stated that over-reporting of deaths was at least 25%. Others have concluded that it is closer to 40% for COVID. So deduct 40% from 360,000 and you get about 200,000 deaths. In a population of about 330,000,000 how large is that? 0.06%.
 
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I don't know what you're trying to say. 360,000 have died from COVID 19 in the US since Feb of last year. I believe the numbers are legit. I don't care what you call it. Call it a nasty virus event if you like I just know that the vaccine is good news and I want to get one. I wish they would just get them to the pharmacy already.
U don't know what im saying... Ok... I'll simplify the CDC data for you...

Total deaths 2019 - 2,794,146
Total deaths 2020 - 2,533,214


Now... Do u agree that logically speaking we should see more total deaths in 2020???
 
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#90
I don't know what you're trying to say. 360,000 have died from COVID 19 in the US since Feb of last year. I believe the numbers are legit. I don't care what you call it. Call it a nasty virus event if you like I just know that the vaccine is good news and I want to get one. I wish they would just get them to the pharmacy already.
What song do you want for your funeral, amazing grace or another one? I don't know this vaccine probably won't kill anyone immediately, perhaps in a year or 2. You should consider to get the mark of the beast as well... This "would be cool" techonology for you i bet, and it will make your life easier, no cash requiered to pay anything...
 
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#91
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Iv been called a conspiracy theorist. I said we wouldn't go back to normal. Prophecy fulfilled.
I said they would take advantage of us... Prophecy fulfilled
I predicted that they would try and vaccinate the world. Prophecy being fulfilled
I predicted that they would demonize and silence those that oppose... prophecy fulfilled
I said that it was not a pandemic. Prophecy fulfilled...

So i encourage everyone to turn off your TV and visit your local conspiracy theorist to obtain the facts
"THE DEMOLITION MAN" Who could have imagined that this movie from the 90s would become a reality so fast now... We would be the minority of people who are like Stallone and who are not afraid of shaking hands... the rest of the world is lobotomized.
 
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#92
You've hit the nail on the head. All the governments of the world have finally discovered how they can simply establish totalitarianism in their countries through the pretense of protecting the health of the publish.

The scamdemic hoax has turned out to be a boon to all the petty tyrants who have destroyed the lives of millions. Yes, they do want to force this bogus vaccine on absolutely everyone, and then track people through the micro-needle tips (residues) that remain.
U don't know what im saying... Ok... I'll simplify the CDC data for you...

Total deaths 2019 - 2,794,146
Total deaths 2020 - 2,533,214


Now... Do u agree that logically speaking we should see more total deaths in 2020???
No. I don't follow that logic. I would only consider the number of people dying from COVID19 to determine how many people died from COVID19.
 
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No. I don't follow that logic. I would only consider the number of people dying from COVID19 to determine how many people died from COVID19.
Nooo i'll reiterate... Again... Stop trying to change the topic... LoL

Objective - To determine if covid is a pandemic... Comprende... Is this a pandemic?
Ok...
Empirical evidence - Observing the official annual scientific records of total deaths and comparing it to recent years

Pandemic definition - Worldwide disease and death

The method is simple
More deaths = pandemic
Less deaths = no pandemic


So then... A simple question...
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Are we in a pandemic? A simple yes or no question

Cos im failing to see why i have gone from having a comfortable life to being homeless, living out of a van
Im failing to see why i know people who have committed suicide...

Why? What for?
 
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#94
Im failing to see why my livelihood was stolen from me...
Im failing to see why i have to live the rest of my life alone and in poverty...
Im failing to see why you would still be making up such conspiracy theories against the science

And im called a conspiracy theorist... Tssss
 
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#95
How can a conspiracy thinker regain trust in the system and participate again?
I’m a little too hard on myself and the system with this. I simply don’t trust them (politics, science, healthcare, educational system) and can’t allow myself to bend a knee here.
So it ends up taking my social life and I might end up on the short end depressed and broke...

Coming from the pit once I know how easily it’s all lost. They way down is always faster then the way up....
But I just can’t seem to get up this time... This conspiracy is just too obvious and they lied too much and taken us for fools too many times.

“You can’t fool all the people all the time.”
people, are the system.
 
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#96
Facts: It is a virus with a at least a 2% mortality rate.
It is global.
There is a vaccine.
Vaccines are safe.
Vaccines work.
It will stamp out the virus.
Things will return to normal.
Conspiracy theorists will not concede ever.
A theory will be invented that the herd immunity was not from the vaccine. They will claim herd immunity would have happened on the same time line even if there had not been a vaccine. No amount of science will convince them other wise.

Pockets of COVID19 infections will occur among the non vaccinated for many years. A conspiracy theory will be invented (no matter how crazy it may sound) that these unvaccinated are being purposely infected by the lizard people from Qanon who want to eat their children for their DNA. Or something like that. Any theory but one that concedes to the idea of a vaccine that is safe and works.

Let's see if I am right. I will check back in 2024.
go back to normal?
So you wanna forget this pandemic has occured.
So, go back to normal and learn nothing.
Other than the dictionary, there is no "normal".
 
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"THE DEMOLITION MAN" Who could have imagined that this movie from the 90s would become a reality so fast now... We would be the minority of people who are like Stallone and who are not afraid of shaking hands... the rest of the world is lobotomized.
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agree - love your avatar btw !
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Nooo i'll reiterate... Again... Stop trying to change the topic... LoL

Objective - To determine if covid is a pandemic... Comprende... Is this a pandemic?
Ok...
Empirical evidence - Observing the official annual scientific records of total deaths and comparing it to recent years

Pandemic definition - Worldwide disease and death

The method is simple
More deaths = pandemic
Less deaths = no pandemic


So then... A simple question...
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Are we in a pandemic? A simple yes or no question

Cos im failing to see why i have gone from having a comfortable life to being homeless, living out of a van
Im failing to see why i know people who have committed suicide...

Why? What for?
Dictionary says.... (of a disease) prevalent over a whole country or the world.
Yes if that is a pandemic I guess we are.
 

Blain

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You know my mom got the vaccine and intends to get it again soon she wants me to be able to get it and when I told her I am not getting the vaccine she said you don't have a choice your getting it.
Now just from the capabilities of what can be done with the vaccine and how it can be used to alter dna regardless if it's the mark of the beast or not I don't want it but more than that why should I get it when God has protected me this entire time from it? When I was out and about not wearing a mask being around people and I am supposed to be more susceptible to the virus because of my diabetes my history with cancer and my lower immune system yet never once got it.

How much do we really trust God? Do we really trust in a vaccine to keep us safe? do we really trust in a vaccine to get things normal again? Do we really trust a vaccine to save us from this virus? If I end up getting from trusting in God and not a man made vaccine then so be it but Iam not taking this thing only God can truly protect and save
 

breno785au

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How can a conspiracy thinker regain trust in the system and participate again?
I’m a little too hard on myself and the system with this. I simply don’t trust them (politics, science, healthcare, educational system) and can’t allow myself to bend a knee here.
So it ends up taking my social life and I might end up on the short end depressed and broke...

Coming from the pit once I know how easily it’s all lost. They way down is always faster then the way up....
But I just can’t seem to get up this time... This conspiracy is just too obvious and they lied too much and taken us for fools too many times.

“You can’t fool all the people all the time.”
I don't trust either side.