What saves a person today from Hell ?

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throughfaith

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What is more personal than death?

The purpose of the ten commandments was to make sin personal.

If you have not forsaken all else for Christ you have not understood the gospel.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
salvation is not a ' deal ' . its not a promise to commit .
 

CharliRenee

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I want to add an apology to my last response. I believe my ego got ahead of my reason. I understand that you may be doing what you see fit for the cause of Christ, so the reference to a gerbil on a treadmill was unkind and unfruitful. I am sorry.

Additionally, earlier I said His guidance is not burdensome. The truth is my obtuse nature, lacking humility self, sometimes does find His guidance indeed a burden. It isn't until I surrender, does His guidance becomes much more bearable, even enjoyable.
 

Blik

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In the old testament they had a means for remission of sins . If Jesus did not come and there was no cross, then no one would be redeemed. You need remission and redemption to be saved .
Jesus was from the beginning. The gospel of John even starts out by telling us so. Jesus is God, the Father is incomplete for Jesus and the Holy Spirit is part of God.
 

oyster67

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Yes we know Jesus is the one that saves, but how ?
The answer to this clears up a great deal of confusion within christianity.
There is wonder working power in that blood, brother!

Isaiah
55:1 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
55:2 Wherefore do ye spend money for [that which is] not bread? and your labour for [that which] satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye [that which is] good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.
55:3 Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, [even] the sure mercies of David.
55:4 Behold, I have given him [for] a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people.
55:5 Behold, thou shalt call a nation [that] thou knowest not, and nations [that] knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the LORD thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel; for he hath glorified thee.
55:6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:
55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
 

Bingo

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#46
I want to add an apology to my last response. I believe my ego got ahead of my reason. I understand that you may be doing what you see fit for the cause of Christ, so the reference to a gerbil on a treadmill was unkind and unfruitful. I am sorry.

Additionally, earlier I said His guidance is not burdensome. The truth is my obtuse nature, lacking humility self, sometimes does find His guidance indeed a burden. It isn't until I surrender, does His guidance becomes much more bearable, even enjoyable.
"And, with steadfast perseverance, more revelations are learned." :)

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Yes we know Jesus is the one that saves, but how ?
The answer to this clears up a great deal of confusion within christianity.
Since the name "Hell" (Hel) comes from Norse Mythology. You need to clarify which greek words "Hell" was placed on - Hades, Gehenna or Tarturus. They don't all mean the same thing.
 

ForestGreenCook

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Yes we know Jesus is the one that saves, but how ?
The answer to this clears up a great deal of confusion within christianity.
Jesus died and paid for the sins of all that his Father gave to him, which secured them a home in heaven.

God Chose an elect people before the foundation of the world. Eph 1:4.

When the elect are born into this world by natural birth, they are born tainted with the sin of Adam.

Sometime in their natural life, God quickens them to a spiritual life Eph 2.

At the last day Christ will come back and gather his elect Matt 24:31.
 

throughfaith

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Since the name "Hell" (Hel) comes from Norse Mythology. You need to clarify which greek words "Hell" was placed on - Hades, Gehenna or Tarturus. They don't all mean the same thing.
The bad place where people who will not be glorified go to for eternity.
 

oyster67

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Which exact scripture are you referring to?
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
 
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Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Sure are alot of christians that are fearful, unbelieving, whores, idolaters and liars.
You should rethink your ideology.
 
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SophieT

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Sure are alot of christians that are fearful, unbelieving, whores, idolaters and liars.
You should rethink your ideology.

Oh great. Another encourager of the brethren with a touch of fire breathing prophet/evangelist/teacher anointing
 

oyster67

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Sure are alot of christians that are fearful, unbelieving, whores, idolaters and liars.
You should rethink your ideology.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Sure is no such thing as an unbelieving Christian. The people mentioned in this verse are all going strait to Fire Lake and not a single one is a Christian. Patronize me all you want, but never second guess the Word of the Lord.

Hebrews
12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
12:29 For our God [is] a consuming fire.
 
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Oh great. Another encourager of the brethren with a touch of fire breathing prophet/evangelist/teacher anointing
All kinds of unbelieving christians - they don't believe in tongues, healing, that Jesus will make all things new, the spiritual interpretation of the Bible, etc.
Certainly know christian preachers that are in self-idolatry.
IF you don't 'Believe' that, you're a Liar.

Can't handle the truth, eh?
"the wages of sin is death" - christians are dying all the time.
 
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Sure is no such thing as an unbelieving Christian. The people mentioned in this verse are all going strait to Fire Lake and not a single one is a Christian. Patronize me all you want, but never second guess the Word of the Lord.

Hebrews
12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
12:29 For our God [is] a consuming fire.
Make sure you leave out the 'Baptism of FIRE' - do you think that is 3rd dimensional fire too?
 

Blik

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All kinds of unbelieving christians - they don't believe in tongues, healing, that Jesus will make all things new, the spiritual interpretation of the Bible, etc.
Certainly know christian preachers that are in self-idolatry.
IF you don't 'Believe' that, you're a Liar.

Can't handle the truth, eh?
"the wages of sin is death" - christians are dying all the time.
Being a Christian means being forgiven of our sins through faith in Christ, and repenting of them. That results in Jesus becoming part of us. When that happens, we accept the ways of Jesus inside of us, and that is the ways of love. Love is patient and kind, it does not judge others based on such as accepting healing or speaking in tongues. It is based on forgiveness of our sins by Christ.

Have you read the Lord's Prayer? It tells us that if we won't forgive others, how can we then ask God to forgive us.