Leftist Thinking Is The Most Destructive Element In Existence

Actually, our medical system is excellent, and free to every person in Canada. My SIL had cancer, she is 9 years cancer free, treated in Canada. I have multiple autoimmune diseases, the meds are very expensive. It is all free for me. I'm talking $100,000s a year.

I frequent a lot of doctors. Besides my rheumatologist, I have a liver specialist (who is one of the best doctors I've ever had), a pulmonologist, kidney specialist allergy specialist, ophthalmologist, orthopaedic surgeon and a bone density specialist. No copay, and it really doesn't take long to see them.

I've also experienced American health care. I got food poisoning or a flu. I became extremely dehydrated, when we were driving back from California to Alberta. We stopped in a small town in Idaho, with a brand new hospital. No one was in the ER waiting room. I got taken into a room, that was fancier than any hotel I have ever stayed in. I had my own washroom with ceramic tiles on the floor. I had a remote for the flat screened tv I wasn't well enough to watch.

The doctor said I had a flu, and gave me 3 litres of fluid, and 2 types of anti nausea drugs. Sent me home.

The bill for those 2 hours was $3000 and another $550 for the doctor. My husband had private insurance through work, and they negotiated and paid for the whole thing. But the hospital collection agency harassed me for more money for a year, and said I had not paid anything. It was totally incompetent, and my insurance gave them a piece of their minds, and the harassment finally stopped.

Meanwhile, the next day, my husband got sick after eating the same pizza that made me sick. (Not the flu at all!) I drove through a snow storm in the mountains of Montana to get him back to Canada. He was put on IV fluids and given a gravol, and sent home (to our hotel) in 2 hours. Cost- $0. It wasn't as fancy as the American hospital, but I wanted medical treatment, not a room that was better than anything I'd ever stayed in.

My American cousin had jaw problems. She was a nurse, snd her husband an ER doc. They had all the doctors, nurses and techs donate their time. It still cost them $30K just for the surgical room, and a hospital bed. Most people could never afford that!

The American health care system is literally screwed up. So many overlapping services, HMOs, it costs over $9000 per person per year to run. The numbers of every other developed country in the world, are half or less with universal health care. The US is a bloated system set up for the rich.

I'll take my chances every time with Canada. As for Sophie and Justin Trudeau, they are a drain on the public purse. We just found out he spent $200,000 on a family Christmas vacation in Costa Rica at taxpayers expense. He is a total lefty, admires communism and involved in the UN and the Great Reset, or the NWO. Pretty dumb to use the worst prime minister Canada has ever had, as your example. They are Laurentian elitists, and hated by 1/2 of Canada!!

So you have totally gotten this wrong. I just took a course on Christianity and Politics for my PhD in an American Theological Institute. We talked extensively about universal versus private health care. Not one person in the class knew anything about universal health care, except the student from Cuba. But their system is very primitive compared to Canada or other developed nations. I got the same boring arguments about how much better American health care was. I explained our system, and most felt they had really had their eyes opened. Well, one or two hated the American system already, particularly one woman who got her drugs shipped from Canada, which she could not afford to buy in the US.

I'll close with a true story. In 2009, my RA meds failed, and I was put in a drug called Rituxan, a biologic given by infusion in a clinic. You get 2 doses 2 weeks apart, and then nothing for 6 months or longer, depending upon your response. I had two American friends with RA on the same drug. We were talking about the cost of the drug one day. The one from California paid $55,000 for his set of two infusions. The one from Chicago paid $75,000 for her two infusions.

Do you know how much I paid in Canada? $4000! And with insurance and public insurance, I had two copays of $25, although I would pay zero in BC. That is highway robbery. It is excessive gouging. I know our drug manufacturers were making money at $2000 per infusion. It was a giant rip off for my friends who paid thousand of times what I did.

That is what I think of your extremely poor and gouging system in the US.

Sorry, I don’t believe you. If you’re correct, I’m sure yours is the exception and not the rule. Is Trudeau printing money out of thin air in order to fund your portion? Then hyper inflation is on the way. My opinion is based on information from reputable sources.
PLEASE POINT TO JUST ONE OTHER AREA WHERE GOVERNMENT DOES A BETTER, MORE COST EFFICIENT JOB THAN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. And yet, we’re expected to believe the Canadian govt is setting the healthcare world on fire? They can’t even stop the Islamic invasion. It can’t even keep the potholes filled. Ever been down to the Office of Motor Vehicles?

When it comes to quality, quantity, and cost savings, there is no getting around this steadfast rule:

YOU CAN PICK ONLY TWO.

If you want quality and comprehensive coverage, it’s going to cost a tremendous amount of taxpayer funds.

If savings and quality, then not everyone gets covered.

The reason why our system is broken is because the communist Obama made healthcare a mandatory purchase so the healthcare industry naturally jacked up the already high prices and insurance companies block efforts to implement free market competitiveness.

So basically you're turning the declining popularity of Christianity into a political issue

then saying that all scientists are leftists and therefore wrong

and that they should spend their education learning about religious dogma

rather than something as evil as rationality?

How dare you say I am lying?? Im well known in this forum, and not a person here would agree with you that I am a liar, even if they disagree with my stance on universal health care.

Without theology, you really can't begin to touch on the multiplicity of concepts and realities that God speaks in Scripture. I've been studying theology for 2 years towards a PhD. It is astounding how much it has opened my eyes even more to the majesty, grace and wisdom of God.

Of course, I've read the Bible over 50 times, including the NT in Koine Greek and the OT in Biblical Hebrew. I trust God totally, he is the one leading and guiding me.

As for you, stop spreading your vicious jealous nonsense about something you know nothing about. Going to seminary and now working on a PhD are the most life changing things I've ever done. My professors have been godly men and women, most of them spent years in foreign missions fields.

How many years have you spent in foreign countries doing missionary work? How many times have you read the Bible, cover to cover, for that matter?

Without theology, you really can't begin to touch on the multiplicity of concepts and realities that God speaks in Scripture.

I've been studying theology for 2 years towards a PhD.

Of course, I've read the Bible over 50 times,

As for you, stop spreading your vicious jealous nonsense about something you know nothing about.

My professors have been godly men and women, most of them spent years in foreign missions fields.

Going to seminary and now working on a PhD are the most life changing things I've ever done.

Saying I don't believe you is not the same thing as saying you're a liar because you could have 1) misremembered, 2) drawn a wrong conclusion, or 3) been misinformed by others who are misinformed/lying like those of the unofficial communist propagandist ministry of Canada.

That opening sentence was a litmus test for you.

If your first thought was to offer an apology for leveling such a childish accusation, congratulations, you're human, and we can continue the discussion later when I will present data that I can assure you is not "just hearsay from my crazy right wing extremist friends".

If your first thought had nothing to do with apologies, congratulations, you're an emotionally unstable leftist with a PhD in Selective Outrage who is primed and ready to blow her stack at the first sign of a Conservative challenge to your leftist bulldookey. I will present the data anyway for public benefit but decline further discussion, seeing I don't waste time with such people.

Which are you?

I have always believed in the West separating, now it is crucial.

Let me see if I can translate all this double-speak for the rest of us peasants who are obviously not as enlightened.



This is the first argument most pastors make about people coming to church and throwing money into the collection plates. "You need theology," they declare. "Without it, you will never become as brilliant as me at quoting scripture and discovering its meaning."

The Pharisees tried to make that same argument. Thank the Father that he sent Jesus to rescue us from such rubes.

The really insidious thing about this comical diatribe is that it comes across as the person being able to know scripture inside and out; to really understand the mind of God, so to speak. By having the Bible memorized, you can use it as a weapon to bend other's way of thinking to your will.

I've been on the receiving end of this way of thinking. And I'm here to tell you, it's a horrific experience, mentally, physically, and spiritually. If you want to cause the most harm to people as a pastor, continue on with your current paradigm.



Good for you. I sincerely hope you finish your education. But it's your attitude toward it that stinks. By the way, it's annotated as Ph.D. You will need to know that if you are going to continue to flaunt the title and shove it in others' faces.



Of course, you have, because you are a better Christian than everyone else. I, on the other hand, like so many, have a real job where I make a real living. I, unfortunately, don't have time to read the Bible as much as you.

I suppose, when you become a pastor and start making over two to three times what the average congregant makes, you will be telling everyone how you send your kids to private school, and anyone who doesn't is a heathen.



This brings us to the second argument every pastor makes:

"You have no idea what you are talking about. You don't know the life of a pastor and what we go through. And as for me making the money I do and living in the enormous house and driving the nice cars and taking vacations every year and sending my kids to private school and having everyone else pay for it; don't be jealous that I am more blessed than you, peasant!"

Yes, I know the typical rebuttal: Pastors make their money from books. After all, that's how Franklin Graham is worth over $30 million. That would be a great argument if he also made disciples, but he doesn't. Instead, he is busy being the CEO of a multi-million-dollar corporate empire (every new millennial pastor's dream), all in the name of Jesus, of course.



The third argument every pastor makes: "You are not truly committed to God unless you have spent time somewhere in a foreign country spreading the Gospel. Only the greatest Christians, I included, have made that supreme sacrifice. Therefore, I am far superior to you for evangelizing to these impoverished people rather than those privileged brats at home."

The problem with this " I am going to make a name for myself by saving the world" mentality is that there are truly pressing needs at home. They may not be in the form of poverty, but they are certainly spiritual.

But instead of taking on those challenges, at least within the church membership, pastors shut people out. They are so afraid of people wasting their precious time that they put up barriers and enlist various forms of gatekeepers. Here are just a few:

• Websites
• Contact forms
• Prayer requests (what a joke)
• Locked pastor's offices
• Bullet-proof glass partitions (yes, I've really witnessed that!)

The list is almost endless. You can't even email a pastor any more to tell them what a great sermon they gave last week. What a shame!

So much for making disciples at home. No problem, though. Just hop on a plane to the Philippines and that should ease even the grottiest conscience.



The fourth argument every pastor makes: "Because I have bought into the hype of the high-dollar educational institutions, and I am thoroughly convinced that a seminary degree is the only way to truly connect with God, you should be in awe of me. You too should aspire to such greatness."

No thanks. Instead, I will aspire to be like Jesus. He did four things that most pastors today do not:

1. Quoted directly from scripture
2. Preached the will of the Father, instead of the will of the institutional church
3. Made disciples
4. Taught His disciples to go out and make more disciples

I wish you all the best, Miss Angela. I hope as a pastor you will go and make disciples instead of making yet another pagan god in the form of institutional debauchery. I pray you will one day receive the largest crown of glory Peter describes here:

" So as your fellow elder and a witness of Christ’s sufferings and as one who shares in the glory that will be revealed, I urge the elders among you: Give a shepherd’s care to God’s flock among you, exercising oversight not merely as a duty but willingly under God’s direction, not for shameful profit but eagerly. And do not lord it over those entrusted to you, but be examples to the flock. Then when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that never fades away." 1 Peter 5:1-4

I am of the same opinion. As a matter of fact I prepared a complete blueprint for a "Republic of the Prairies", then contacted a couple of key individuals who could possibly take action. But to no avail. Canada simply does not have even one man of courage and vision, like Donald Trump.

If your first thought had nothing to do with apologies, congratulations, you're an emotionally unstable leftist with a PhD in Selective Outrage who is primed and ready to blow her stack at the first sign of a Conservative challenge to your leftist bulldookey. I will present the data anyway for public benefit but decline further discussion, seeing I don't waste time with such people.

Which are you?

I'm Canadian, as I have said. I'm very right wing in Canada. Except everyone, no matter what their political preferences, believes in universal healthcare in Canada. It has nothing to do with "sides" but rather, taking care of our own people.

I absolutely believe in free enterprise, free speech and freedom to believe in God. But with a real leftie in power, Justin Trudeau, we may not have that much longer they way things are going. The country of Canada is a mess, with no chance to rectify the issue by voting, because our electoral system is totally rigged. Last election, in 2019, the Conservatives won by 200,000 votes. So why does Trudeau have 36 more seats? Because the eastern provinces have 35K to 75 K per riding. The west has 135K votes per riding.

I have always believed in the West separating, now it is crucial. That is my goal, the inequities in Canada make the west drawers or water and hewers of wood.

Don't impose your extremist views on me. I am definitely right wing, but not in American terms. In fact, I really await the return of Jesus Christ, because I think this world is near done. But not a dispie, either. Dispensationalism is madness, verses desperately pulled out of context.

Your American definitions mean nothing to me. You are enthno-centric, ignorant because of the extreme right wing propaganda you have immersed yourself in. I was hoping for a Trump win. Trump didn't know it, but he was standing in the gap for Canada too. I simply don't see how either of our countries are going last with these UN loving leaders, globalists all, funded by China, and Democrats like Warren Buffet and Wall Street traders. I think we can agree in that!

PS Any time you want to apologize to me for putting me into your extreme American right wing mold, I'm listening.

Let me see if I can translate all this double-speak for the rest of us peasants who are obviously not as enlightened.



This is the first argument most pastors make about people coming to church and throwing money into the collection plates. "You need theology," they declare. "Without it, you will never become as brilliant as me at quoting scripture and discovering its meaning."

The Pharisees tried to make that same argument. Thank the Father that he sent Jesus to rescue us from such rubes.

The really insidious thing about this comical diatribe is that it comes across as the person being able to know scripture inside and out; to really understand the mind of God, so to speak. By having the Bible memorized, you can use it as a weapon to bend other's way of thinking to your will.

I've been on the receiving end of this way of thinking. And I'm here to tell you, it's a horrific experience, mentally, physically, and spiritually. If you want to cause the most harm to people as a pastor, continue on with your current paradigm.



Good for you. I sincerely hope you finish your education. But it's your attitude toward it that stinks. By the way, it's annotated as Ph.D. You will need to know that if you are going to continue to flaunt the title and shove it in others' faces.



Of course, you have, because you are a better Christian than everyone else. I, on the other hand, like so many, have a real job where I make a real living. I, unfortunately, don't have time to read the Bible as much as you.

I suppose, when you become a pastor and start making over two to three times what the average congregant makes, you will be telling everyone how you send your kids to private school, and anyone who doesn't is a heathen.



This brings us to the second argument every pastor makes:

"You have no idea what you are talking about. You don't know the life of a pastor and what we go through. And as for me making the money I do and living in the enormous house and driving the nice cars and taking vacations every year and sending my kids to private school and having everyone else pay for it; don't be jealous that I am more blessed than you, peasant!"

Yes, I know the typical rebuttal: Pastors make their money from books. After all, that's how Franklin Graham is worth over $30 million. That would be a great argument if he also made disciples, but he doesn't. Instead, he is busy being the CEO of a multi-million-dollar corporate empire (every new millennial pastor's dream), all in the name of Jesus, of course.



The third argument every pastor makes: "You are not truly committed to God unless you have spent time somewhere in a foreign country spreading the Gospel. Only the greatest Christians, I included, have made that supreme sacrifice. Therefore, I am far superior to you for evangelizing to these impoverished people rather than those privileged brats at home."

The problem with this " I am going to make a name for myself by saving the world" mentality is that there are truly pressing needs at home. They may not be in the form of poverty, but they are certainly spiritual.

But instead of taking on those challenges, at least within the church membership, pastors shut people out. They are so afraid of people wasting their precious time that they put up barriers and enlist various forms of gatekeepers. Here are just a few:

• Websites
• Contact forms
• Prayer requests (what a joke)
• Locked pastor's offices
• Bullet-proof glass partitions (yes, I've really witnessed that!)

The list is almost endless. You can't even email a pastor any more to tell them what a great sermon they gave last week. What a shame!

So much for making disciples at home. No problem, though. Just hop on a plane to the Philippines and that should ease even the grottiest conscience.



The fourth argument every pastor makes: "Because I have bought into the hype of the high-dollar educational institutions, and I am thoroughly convinced that a seminary degree is the only way to truly connect with God, you should be in awe of me. You too should aspire to such greatness."

No thanks. Instead, I will aspire to be like Jesus. He did four things that most pastors today do not:

1. Quoted directly from scripture
2. Preached the will of the Father, instead of the will of the institutional church
3. Made disciples
4. Taught His disciples to go out and make more disciples

I wish you all the best, Miss Angela. I hope as a pastor you will go and make disciples instead of making yet another pagan god in the form of institutional debauchery. I pray you will one day receive the largest crown of glory Peter describes here:

" So as your fellow elder and a witness of Christ’s sufferings and as one who shares in the glory that will be revealed, I urge the elders among you: Give a shepherd’s care to God’s flock among you, exercising oversight not merely as a duty but willingly under God’s direction, not for shameful profit but eagerly. And do not lord it over those entrusted to you, but be examples to the flock. Then when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that never fades away." 1 Peter 5:1-4

This is utter stupidity. You have adopted the leftist ideal that disagreement is to be met with derision and dismissal. You have embraced your enemy, and have become him. I could see the trend in your opening post, and you have fully confirmed it.

act that for the last 70 years, left-of-center Leftist thinking has shifted all the way over to far left with Communism, Marxism, Socialism

Nah, what's stupid is knowing that Jesus is about to come, but advocating that we sit around and sing Kumbaya instead of following our God-given mandate in Ephesians 5:11 KJV to expose Satanic error. And leftist don't even enter the arean of ideas, while we shake the dust from our sandals after it's evident that they are such.

First, I am 67 and retired

my search of the Bible is to learn to help people who are broken and hurting.

My goal is to contribute to the practical literature on helping people.

Paul is clear that women are not to teach men - they are emotionally ill-equipped to handle such church duties which God has clearly ordained are to be handled by men.

I cringe every time I see a dude gushing over female pseudo-religious authoritarians like Paula White or Joyce Meyer. I want to haul them out of the building and force feed them red meat before dragging them to the gun range for some testosterone therapy

That's an interest statement and quite audacious to claim it as fact? I could make the same claim about the Right.