When Has God Gathered After He Scattered Without Any Repentance?

God has deliberately invested his heart and his very reputation on this.


Ezekiel 36

21 I had concern for my holy name, which the people of Israel profaned among the nations where they had gone.

22 ‘Therefore say to the Israelites, “This is what the Sovereign Lord says: it is not for your sake, people of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone.

23 I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the Lord, declares the Sovereign Lord, when I am proved holy through you before their eyes.

24 ‘“For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land.

25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols.

26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.

28 Then you will live in the land I gave your ancestors; you will be my people, and I will be your God.


32 I want you to know that I am not doing this for your sake, declares the Sovereign Lord. Be ashamed and disgraced for your conduct, people of Israel!


36 Then the nations around you that remain will know that I the Lord have rebuilt what was destroyed and have replanted what was desolate. I the Lord have spoken, and I will do it.”

I completely agree with this.

I've read the scriptires you posted. They don't contradict what Paul taught from my point of view. They do contradict what Paul said from your point of view.

if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. Jn.8:2:24 Ye are of your father the devil Jn.8:44 This is Jesus speaking to Jewish people.

And think not to saywithin yourselves, We have Abraham to our father Mt.3:9 This is John the baptist speaking to Jewish people.

They're right. You're wrong.

This has nothing to do with the promise God made to nation of Israel

why can’t you understand that?

You need to study the OT and abrahamic covenant man.
eternal life is promised to believers

the land promise has nothing to do with eternal life

Me three

Your wrong

paul did not contradict those passages, he stated plainly in Romans 11 god is not done with Israel, he will bring them to repentance and he will remember them

Yes it does have to do with the promise God made to Abraham,

For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. Heb.11:10.

Abraham understood the new Jerusalem is what God promised him.

I have studied it,

Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. Gal.3:16

You say seeds. Paul said seed. Paul's right. You're wrong.

For what saith the scripture? Abraham believedGod, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Rom.4:3

You say Jew. Paul says believer. He's right. You're wrong.

There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. Lk.13:28

By the people mentioned, thats the entire OT.

Aw, c’mon, surely if there was such a deliverance and restoration in the Bible, you’d have found it by now, yes? 😉

It’s starting to grow on me 😎

There are many aspects to abrahams covenant. One part is the land.

Rom 9 has nothing to do with the land. Given ONLY to Abraham Isaac and Jacob

Maybe with your biases. But yu have not studied it.

Seeds. Is all the nations of the world

The SEED was promised land.

Paul is right, YOU are wrong, Because paul understood the two aspects. You do not.

I said ALL believers were promised eternal life. You just lied about what I said. You just destroyed your argument. By proving you did not understand what I said.

This still has nothing to do with the land promise

You are off context and prove you do not understand. Please stick to the argument

WOW! Chapter and verse?

the sheep were scattered when the Shepherd was struck, and He gathered them together while they were still in unbelief.

i'd mention that you need to understand 1 Kings 13 ((and of course you also need to know all of 2 Kings 22 & 23)) in order to know why 1 Kings 22:1 fully answers your objection to @Evmur but those are a lot of words to read, more than several mini-novels, and i don't want you to be put out with the burden of all that text, you know ♥

You missed the part where God says, "...regardless if they repent first of not."

Oh, that's not found anywhere in Scripture, is it?

Do you know what is? "If My people will humble themselves....then I will hear from heaven..." Curious thing about all those "if/then" passages: they denote conditions which must be met.

Good gravy, man! I asked you for a chapter and verse where God gathered Israel back to their land after scattering them for disobedience, without them first having repented.

This entire chapter is about God sending a ginormous evil to punish and scatter Israel without any mention of a promise to gather them in a state of rebellion back to the land!

no, you asked Evmur for chapter-and-verse of God saving Israel from her enemies while they were unrepentant.

Josiah was prophesied by name to appear and become king in 1 Kings 13. you need to understand what 1 Kings 13 is about, how it is a picture of Christ/antichrist and salvation.
and i gave you 2 Kings 22:1, which is that Josiah became king over an idolatrous people.
and 2 Kings 22:20 is that the judgement He had prepared for Judah would not come while Josiah was king. they were saved from their enemies while this king was with them.
you need to understand how Josiah is a picture of Christ.


'the entire chapter' is not about the destruction He will chastise them with. verses 16 & 17 are. 2 out of 20 verses do not comprise the entire chapter, even if they are the only 2 you read.
you need to understand a lot more Bible than those 2 verses to see the significance of Josiah, who btw was repentant, himself, as no other king has ever been. you need to understand Genesis 18, too. how many Messianic Jews are there in Israel? 30,000? is that more than ten?