Does satan hide The Way to the Tree of Life? Do Cherubim hide the Tree itself?

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2ndTimothyGroup said:
The Tree of Life is Christ . . . and this early picture of Christ that you have provided above, is there to tell us that all of humanity would have to wait for Jesus to die and pay for their sins. To eat from the Tree of Life is to be Purified.

If you want to understand Genesis 3:22-24, you've got to compare it to Colossians 2:9-15, the single most important Seven Perfect Verses in the entire Bible.
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Isnt Jesus the bread of life John 6:47-49 He is the Bread of Life that came down from heaven to bring us eternal life. That’s why Jesus refers to Himself as the Bread of Life. In John 6:47-49 He says, “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. I am the bread of life.
 
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Isnt Jesus the bread of life John 6:47-49 He is the Bread of Life that came down from heaven to bring us eternal life. That’s why Jesus refers to Himself as the Bread of Life. In John 6:47-49 He says, “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. I am the bread of life.
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Yes, Jesus is the Bread of Life. There is only one "Thing" that offers Eternal Life, and that is Jesus Christ. So if we eat from the Tree of Life, or the Bread of Life, or drink the Blood of Christ, which is the Wine of Eternal Life, all are Jesus . . . including the Rock that was split and the Spirit poured forth. My friend . . . Christ is all-throughout!
 
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Is the Tree of Knowledge not called the "Tree of Death", because God is still partially connected to us via the good?

Is the good the reason we have The Way out of Death?
 
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Yes, Jesus is the Bread of Life. There is only one "Thing" that offers Eternal Life, and that is Jesus Christ. So if we eat from the Tree of Life, or the Bread of Life, or drink the Blood of Christ, which is the Wine of Eternal Life, all are Jesus . . . including the Rock that was split and the Spirit poured forth. My friend . . . Christ is all-throughout!
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I agree with this but i do feal the tree of life and the bread of life our seperate, Jesus said i can do nothing with out the father, John 5:19 19Jesus gave them this answer: "Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.,
i have often wondered if the tree of life is the father and the bread of life is the son, But i havent gave it much research.
Im seeing a spiritual light in the form of a tree baring mana. (kinda like a real tree but in the formof light, the mana i also see in light form is the bread that clings to the tree that feeds us spiritual food in the form of light.
 
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Never heard of it . . . nor do any of the online Bibles I reference state this.

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Did you see the "not"? The price of sin is death. The tree of knowledge offered separation from God ..to make our own rules ..to sin. But God didn't let us go straight to the lake of fire, He tossed in an escape route ..the good ..Christ.
 
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2ndTimothyGroup said:
Never heard of it . . . nor do any of the online Bibles I reference state this.

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the result of eating from it is "dying ye shall die" -- on that account it's perfectly acceptable IMO to call it "the tree of surely-die" or "tree of death" and my pastor often calls it that, actually. i can provide sermon links if you want :)
 
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The Flaming Sword enters our reality through the Good. It is The Way.

satan doesn't want us to know anything about it.
 
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We have to pass through the blood of Christ to reach it. He is the flaming sword keeping the way - it would be "not good" of Adam had gone and eaten of it before Jesus offered Humself: He is THE WAY

Brings up an interesting question, why didn't Adam and Woman go eat from the tree of life immediately after eating from the tree that brought death? They had time, but they spent it sewing fig leaves and hiding instead. Why? Whose idea was it? Did Satan wa t them to eat from the tree of life in their death-state? Was that his plan, but Adam, who Satan could not deceive, thwarted it by keeping himself and his wife away from it until God appeared and prevented them from reaching it?
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Are these real questions?
 
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the result of eating from it is "dying ye shall die" -- on that account it's perfectly acceptable IMO to call it "the tree of surely-die" or "tree of death" and my pastor often calls it that, actually. i can provide sermon links if you want :)
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This is where it gets confusing for me. I would like to think that the tree of life would feed knowledge and the two trees should not be seperated ie one callled the tree of knowledge one called the tree of life.
 
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This is where it gets confusing for me. I would like to think that the tree of life would feed knowledge and the two trees should not be seperated ie one callled the tree of knowledge one called the tree of life.
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We were clearly told the Tree of Life is different. I think buddhist try to combine them. But, if you read my posts in this thread, I think the Tree of Life does enter the Tree of Knowledge ..via an olive branch.
 
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posthuman said:
the result of eating from it is "dying ye shall die" -- on that account it's perfectly acceptable IMO to call it "the tree of surely-die" or "tree of death" and my pastor often calls it that, actually. i can provide sermon links if you want :)
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Am I losing my mind? There are two different trees in the Garden. There is the Tree of knowledge of Good and Evil, and there is the Tree of Life.

Or, am I missing something?
 
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We were clearly told the Tree of Life is different. I think buddhist try to combine them. But, if you read my posts in this thread, I think the Tree of Life does enter the Tree of Knowledge ..via an olive branch.
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I Know we get told there diffrent and i cant help you with buddhists as i have never studied that. My Question is that God is unquestionably the tree of life who holds all knowledge of right and wrong or good and evil, so why should there be a tree of knowledge in the first place.
Ive never worked that out, i wondered whether God needed an extra memory bank in the garden kinda like a back up hard drive, thats my only logical explanation. Its a mystery to me
 
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Was the Tree of Life, all other trees in the Garden of Eden?

Is the Tree of Knowledge a sub-reality to God's Kingdom?
 
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I Know we get told there diffrent and i cant help you with buddhists as i have never studied that. My Question is that God is unquestionably the tree of life who holds all knowledge of right and wrong or good and evil, so why should there be a tree of knowledge in the first place.
Ive never worked that out, i wondered whether God needed an extra memory bank in the garden kinda like a back up hard drive, thats my only logical explanation. Its a mystery to me
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Man always ends up requesting to be about himself separated from God. This place is a necessary step to find those willing to become one with God.
 
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Was the Tree of Life, all other trees in the Garden of Eden?

Is the Tree of Knowledge a sub-reality to God's Kingdom?
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no i cant see that as we will most definately live if we eat from the tree of life.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
Man always ends up requesting to be about himself separated from God. This place is a necessary step to find those willing to become one with God.
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If your talking about mankinds willingness to follow God that is. I like to think of it this way as written in the bible, fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, For that reason we should know all knowledge of our heavens and God and all knowledge of evil. I dont think they can be seperated, as this could be a weekness where the enemy can overcome us. If we dont know the wicked ways of evil then evil has an advantage on us all. and the more we get fed knowledge the more we grow, this then leads to the tree of life as long as we obey
 
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