The banishment of Adam and Eve

Adam "knowingly" committed sin. It is most likely that he knew the consequences of their actions and yet still committed sin. Adam loved his wife so much, that he joined her in sin. Gentlemen, do we love our wives this much?

Two punishments were given out by God for disobeying Him: 1.) They were cursed. 2.) They were banished from the Garden of Eden.

Friend, I would encourage you to read Genesis 3 more closely.

God cursed the serpent, and informed Adam that the ground was cursed. God did not curse Adam or Eve; rather, He told them what the consequences of their sin would be. Also, while they were banished from the garden, this was a blessing as it prevented them from eating of the tree of life in their fallen state.

I am just wondering why that would be bad if they ate from the tree of life in their fallen state?

Living forever in sin? No thanks.

Two punishments were given out by God for disobeying Him: 1.) They were cursed. 2.) They were banished from the Garden of Eden. God tells Adam that he can freely eat of every tree of the garden except from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. God says that if he eats from it, "he will surely die." The Bible doesn't tell us exactly how Eve knew of this tree and God's command concerning it. Since the husband is head over the household, Adam may have taken the responsibility of telling her what God has said. Eve told the serpent, "God said we shall not eat of it." Adam and Eve may have already known, intellectually, the difference between good and evil because of God's command. They knew it was right to eat from certain trees and wrong to eat from another. When they made the choice to disobey God, they knew evil experientially, because they themselves made the choice to sin against God. Most biblical scholars and church leaders teach that the reason for Adam and Eve's banishment was because they disobeyed God when they ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. This isn't the reason.

Genesis 3:6 "....she took of the fruit and did eat and gave also to her husband with her, and he did eat." Eve sinned first, being deceived of the serpent. But, Adam having knowingly sinned, is responsible for the fall of Mankind. Adam may have known the consequences of their sin but still chose to disobey God.

1 Timothy 2:14 "Adam was not deceived", he knowingly committed sin. The beginning of the fall of Mankind.

Genesis 3:22-24 Could this be the sole reason for banishing Adam and Eve from the Garden. "Lest he put forth his hand and also take of the tree of life, and live forever.......therefore the Lord of God sent him forth from the Garden of Eden."

The Two Trees
Something that many overlook is that the story mentions two trees. The tree of knowledge is what people most distinctively remember about that story. The other of course, is the tree of life. Both trees were special. One gave knowledge. The other, had some role in maintaining life to Adam and Eve and possibly to the animals as well.

The Curse
The banishment of Adam and Eve was one punishment. The other was that they were cursed. For the man, since he was head of the household, he will constantly feel the pressures and struggles for providing for his family, working and being responsible for his family's well-being. For the woman, her "sorrows" or birth pangs God multiplied in physical pain. Her desire would be to her husband. This desire could be a physical desire toward him or a natural desire to submit to his leadership and role in the household. Some believe that this "desire" could be conflicting as to not being willing to submit to him.

"And the Lord God said, behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever." God drove Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden, away from the tree of life, so that they could not eat from it. So, this banishment was so that they couldn't eat from it again. The tree of life is guarded by Angels and it is by God's will that anyone will ever have access to it again.
Adam "knowingly" committed sin. It is most likely that he knew the consequences of their actions and yet still committed sin. Adam loved his wife so much, that he joined her in sin. Gentlemen, do we love our wives this much?

Adam "knowingly" committed sin. It is most likely that he knew the consequences of their actions and yet still committed sin. Adam loved his wife so much, that he joined her in sin. Gentlemen, do we love our wives this much?

Has it occurred to you that the story may be allegorical?

If it is allegorical then so is our sin, death and Christ's obedience and death in our stead according to Romans 5....

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
(Rom 5:12-19)

Our salvation story is too closely linked to the historical facts of Genesis 3, it can't be allegory.

Perhaps, or maybe there is more that is unexplainable so the “fall” is conveyed anecdotally for ease of comprehension. When I prayed for clarity, the Lord answered my prayer. The “fruit” of knowing right from wrong (tree of the knowledge of good and evil) is guilt.

It wouldn't be anecdotal because Moses wasn't in the Garden and Adam didn't write Genesis.
So you go from 'allegorical' to 'anecdotal', why not take it as an accurate literal historical account revealed to Moses from God?
Why play games with God's Word?
Genesis isn't hard to comprehend if you tie in the rest of Scipture to it.

Two punishments were given out by God for disobeying Him: 1.) They were cursed. 2.) They were banished from the Garden of Eden. God tells Adam that he can freely eat of every tree of the garden except from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. God says that if he eats from it, "he will surely die." The Bible doesn't tell us exactly how Eve knew of this tree and God's command concerning it. Since the husband is head over the household, Adam may have taken the responsibility of telling her what God has said. Eve told the serpent, "God said we shall not eat of it." Adam and Eve may have already known, intellectually, the difference between good and evil because of God's command. They knew it was right to eat from certain trees and wrong to eat from another. When they made the choice to disobey God, they knew evil experientially, because they themselves made the choice to sin against God. Most biblical scholars and church leaders teach that the reason for Adam and Eve's banishment was because they disobeyed God when they ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. This isn't the reason.

Genesis 3:6 "....she took of the fruit and did eat and gave also to her husband with her, and he did eat." Eve sinned first, being deceived of the serpent. But, Adam having knowingly sinned, is responsible for the fall of Mankind. Adam may have known the consequences of their sin but still chose to disobey God.

1 Timothy 2:14 "Adam was not deceived", he knowingly committed sin. The beginning of the fall of Mankind.

Genesis 3:22-24 Could this be the sole reason for banishing Adam and Eve from the Garden. "Lest he put forth his hand and also take of the tree of life, and live forever.......therefore the Lord of God sent him forth from the Garden of Eden."

The Two Trees
Something that many overlook is that the story mentions two trees. The tree of knowledge is what people most distinctively remember about that story. The other of course, is the tree of life. Both trees were special. One gave knowledge. The other, had some role in maintaining life to Adam and Eve and possibly to the animals as well.

The Curse
The banishment of Adam and Eve was one punishment. The other was that they were cursed. For the man, since he was head of the household, he will constantly feel the pressures and struggles for providing for his family, working and being responsible for his family's well-being. For the woman, her "sorrows" or birth pangs God multiplied in physical pain. Her desire would be to her husband. This desire could be a physical desire toward him or a natural desire to submit to his leadership and role in the household. Some believe that this "desire" could be conflicting as to not being willing to submit to him.

"And the Lord God said, behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever." God drove Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden, away from the tree of life, so that they could not eat from it. So, this banishment was so that they couldn't eat from it again. The tree of life is guarded by Angels and it is by God's will that anyone will ever have access to it again.
Adam "knowingly" committed sin. It is most likely that he knew the consequences of their actions and yet still committed sin. Adam loved his wife so much, that he joined her in sin. Gentlemen, do we love our wives this much?

1.) They were cursed.

the ground was cursed for their sakes.

The other was that they were cursed. For the man, since he was head of the household, he will constantly feel the pressures and struggles for providing for his family, working and being responsible for his family's well-being. For the woman, her "sorrows" or birth pangs God multiplied in physical pain. Her desire would be to her husband. This desire could be a physical desire toward him or a natural desire to submit to his leadership and role in the household. Some believe that this "desire" could be conflicting as to not being willing to submit to him.

The ONLY way this story makes sense is if you only tie the rest of Scripture in.

i agree with that statement sure!

but no one in scripture called this an imaginary fable; they believe it is the literal truth and that the literal truth itself is full of meaning. those in scripture who do not believe it are called fools & ungodly.

You think that six thousand years ago, a utopian paradise was created in six days left in the hands of one couple, who managed to lose it all in the first generation and cause it to be cursed because they listened to a crafty snake who told them to break the one and only rule, can be taken at face value?

You are basing this on that Moses, wandering around in the wilderness with renegade shepherds, could fully understand a more complex beginning, but there just wasn’t one. The story has all the markings of a fable: miraculous beginnings, a cardinal rule, two trees with special powers, and a talking snake. For good measure let’s throw in a naive companion who brings it all down.

Living forever in sin? No thanks.