Did Adam's kids commit incest among themselves to achieve posterity?

Isaiah
52:14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:
52:15 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for [that] which had not been told them shall they see; and [that] which they had not heard shall they consider.

53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, [there is] no beauty that we should desire him.
53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were [our] faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
53:5 But he [was] wounded for our transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace [was] upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
53:9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither [was any] deceit in his mouth.
53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put [him] to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see [his] seed, he shall prolong [his] days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, [and] shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
53:12 Therefore will I divide him [a portion] with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

Do you think the Romans who crucified him will go to heaven because he said "Father forgive them for they know not what they are doing"?

Jesus shed His Blood for them as well as us.

It will depend upon what they did with that precious gift from that day onward. What will you do with Jesus today, my friends?

They resumed their conquests and wars immediatley after putting him on the cross because they were professional soldiers. I intend to do good and good with that knowledge

James
4:1 From whence [come] wars and fightings among you? [come they] not hence, [even] of your lusts that war in your members?
4:2 Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.
4:3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume [it] upon your lusts.
4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

...and now back to our regularly scheduled incest discussion.

Rome is the best of all empires, it lasted more than 1000 years from the Rome republic era to its fall more 1600 years ago. Its even described by the prophet Daniel as the Iron part of the statue of a man in Nebuchadnezzar. It was already prophesied. Rome's actions on the Son of God will echo through to eternity via the scars on his hands and feet.

It is my sin that nailed Jesus to the cross. It is for me that He died. Rome and all the other kingdoms of this earth shall be forgotten. Jesus' scars will remind all of His love and the voluntary sacrifice He made for you and me.

The law was to add some perfection to what was already existing, the conscientious knowledge of good and evil, and also because the Lord was gonna pay the Israelites visits, he had to make sure they are pure for the angelic hosts being sent to the house of Israel.

Since He has mercy He doesn't destroy all impurities immediately, but gives laws to enable people to conform over time. But if people refuse to conform ultimately they will be thrown into the Lake of Fire.

So the law does change for certain extra ordinary circumstances?

So I was just wondering how Adam's kids managed to find wives when they were none except their sisters and if they did sleep with their sisters then why was that right in the creation context and wrong in the Torah? Does the law change for desperate circumstances hence the verse "I will show mercy to whom I will, I am the Lord". Can someone with deep scholarly roots in the Bible explain this to me please?

I don't think that's what Paul meant, that without the Law no sin is incurred. Rather, God doesn't hold one completely accountable for what he doesn't know is wrong. However, sin is wrong whether one understands it as such, and he is held accountable whether he knows why or not.

Sin preexisted the Law, and did not require the Law to know what wrong was. Man had been given a conscience from creation, and so knew what right and wrong were, even though his conscience had been corrupted and somewhat seared. If he had not been given a law against incest, then even though sin existed, it was not the incestuous relationship that was wrong--only the sin that took place there, since incest proves to be problematic in a corrupt society.

It is less problematic at the beginning, though. I won't spell out why at this point. Let me just say that kids are pretty safe when there are less social pressures.

As to incest, there was no law against it from the beginning, since God designed marriage within the family to be the initial springboard for ultimate fulfillment. Perhaps these are things about which Paul could not speak of in his visit to the 3rd heaven?

And like nudity, what made incest wrong was the introduction of sin into the mix. And sin is exposed after the effects of sin have changed the original mentality of man.

So what began as pure ended up being corrupted. The initial development of Man of necessity had to continue as planned, even though sin already existed. I'm sure God provided some dispensation of grace to allow it to continue for a brief time until the problems associated with inbreeding and sin could be dealt with by shelving it for something better in an environment of sin.

Adam and Eve were not given a conscience. They received a concience when they ate of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. We as descendants are born with this conscience and are under the law because of it.

Not so. God's children are made pure by Jesus's blood, not the law or water baptism or any other thing.

The problem with this is, it doesn't make sense. God created Man in His own image, and assigned to him a distinct mission. He was, in other words, told what the right thing to do is.

Man was also told what *not* to do, namely not to eat of the forbidden tree. If Man did not have a conscience he would have no basis to make a decision when tempted. But he did have a conscience, knew that he was doing wrong, and was convicted by God later for having chosen to do the wrong thing, against his conscience.

God gave them one commandment : don't eat of the tree. So they were under law. When they acquired a conscience by eating of the tree, that affected their posterity.

This is purely an assertion, and not reality. The reality is that Adam and Eve had a conscience. This makes sense because they were given a command which, if not followed, would result in disobedience. They clearly had a conscience, as indicated when they chose to do wrong and then felt guilty.

We are always under Law, not to be confused with the covenant of Moses' Law. The Law requires that we live in God's image. This is built into us from creation. Furthermore, as Christians we are under the Law of Christ, which stipulates that we must love God with all our heart, and love our neighbors as ourselves.

We might differ about when Adam and Eve developed a conscience, we do agree on the two greatest commandments given by Christ.

In Matt 22: 42-45 Jesus explains that the Christ existed during the time of David and stated that David , in the Spirit, called the Christ Lord, saying " The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit Thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool. The same two that in GenesIs 1: 26 states : " Let us make man...".

We cannot be saved unless we *do something,* namely repent of our own ways and adopt Christ as our Way.