Saved by Water

It is the literal symbol of what spiritually happened inside the heart. But you will see it the way you want!

You have turned the salvation of God into works of a man, it is no longer grace, it will not be accepted by God!

Why not address the scriptures presented?

Acts 22:15-16
For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.

And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Yes, he is saved by grace through faith. He believes God's message in its entirety and obeys because he trusts what God says to be true.

The Bible is very clear about what results in sin forgiven.

Acts 10:43 - All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”

No water, no circumcision, no nothing else. Just believing in Him.

Same answer Paul gave the jailer who asked what he MUST DO to be saved.

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved." Acts 16:31

The Bible is totally consistent. So those who think they have verses that add anything else to remission of sins, they are misunderstanding those verses.

I have repeatedly explained why those 2 verses were specific to the audience. But you just aren't listening.

Cornelius and Gal 3:2,5 REFUTE your wet theory.

And now you've demonstrated that you are unable to read text accurately.

Peter only baptized Cornelius AFTER seeing the evidence that he had received the Holy Spirit.

Again, your theory is all wet.

Acts 2:38 and 22:16 say otherwise.

Those who have not had sins remitted will not enter Heaven.

The Word of God does not contradict itself. Obedience to water baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus is for remission of sin according to the Word. Whether a people chooses to accept it as the truth is another matter altogether.

The Word expressly states that the truth concerning any topic can be seen through the existence of 2-3 scriptures that state the same thing. Acts 2:38 and 22:16 meet this requirement. This in no way negates the need to believe in Jesus. The two rely upon each other. And as such, there is no contradiction.

Your right.

But remission is by the blood. Not water.

But believe what you want.

I am done with this

As I said, I did not come here to argue.

Good day sir.

go read Revelation

I think your type of religion is in there...the kind that is not approved by the author of our salvation

ridiculous.

I continue to be amazed at the left's failure to consider facts.....yes...in scriptures studies also.
WOW!

none of these water washer folk have ever shown what they believe to be true

the intent is to convince others they are right and not to have an actual discussion

this is heresy and I don't know why you have not yet been shown the door

we are baptized into Christ by the Holy Spirit

you are teaching heresy with your water nonsense

its crazy, and sad.

Sadly, I wish the translators actually translated the word instead of transliterate it.. They made a religious term. and everyone automatically assumes water..

I have not ignored you. However, I choose to accept what the Word actually expresses.

As to the Galatian scriptures, you conflate two separate issues. Paul's comments in Gal 3:2,5 are specific to receiving the Holy Spirit. And actually address the fact that following OT laws in no way brings about the receiving of the Holy Spirit. Although that scripture is not addressing water baptism the same holds true. Having one's sins remitted in water baptism in the name of the Lord is a NT requirement that requires one's faith and in no way relies on one keeping OT laws.

As seen in the record concerning Cornelius, the group receives the Holy Ghost/Spirit, and afterward submits to water baptism in the name of the Lord having their sins remitted according to what scriptures Acts 2:38 and 22:16 convey. As well as what Peter stated in verse 43. Each of the experiences had nothing to do with keeping OT laws.

Again, to a specific audience. The biblical pattern for everyone else is found in the case of Cornelius and Gal 3:2,5.

True. And acts 10:43 tells us HOW to get they remitted. Believing in Christ.

If you believe ...you will be baptized. It's called complying with God's commandments.....being righteous.

You are kidding no one. The story of Cornelius and Gal 3:2,5 prove that the Spirit is received on the basis of faith. No water.

The 2 verses are as clear as can be. Paul asked them HOW they received the Spirit. How would you have answered the 2 questions: v.2 and v.5.

But you've been claiming one receives the Spirit through water baptism.