Galatians Discussion

“I could go on and on with what you are ignoring” you seem to do that a lot can you address ANY of this

Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”

‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.”

‭‭James‬ ‭2:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;”

‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭1:9-10KJV‬‬

“Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. But before faith came, we were kept under the law,

shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:19, 23-24KJV‬‬

“For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.”

‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”

‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:21-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.”

‭‭Romans‬ ‭7:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”

‭‭John‬ ‭6:63‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.”

‭‭John‬ ‭4:23-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.”

‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:56‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.”

‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.”

‭‭Romans‬ ‭7:1, 4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.”

‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:10-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.”

‭‭Luke‬ ‭16:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”

‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:21-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

You're speculating. The text clearly states that she was caught in the act; it doesn't specify that she was caught by only one person.

As concerning condemnation, we are not under the law (Romans 6:14), are dead to the law (Romans 7:4, Galatians 2:19) and are delivered from the law (Romans 7:6).

As concerning obedience, we are under the law to Christ (1 Corinthians 9:21); that is,

the law is written on the heart and mind of New Covenant believers as concerning obedience (Hebrews 8:8-10, Herbews 10:16, Romans 8:7, Romans 8:4, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 13:8-10; Romans 5:5; 1 John 2:3-6).

Love is the fulfilling of the law (Romans 13:8-10) and faith which worketh by love is a thing in holy scripture (Galatians 5:6).

Therefore when you say that the law is not of faith, it cannot mean that the righteousness of the law is not fulfilled in us through faith. For, clearly, we receive the Holy Spirit by faith (Galatians 3:14) and if we walk according to the Spirit, the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us (Romans 8:4).

Concerning this,



Notice what I have highlighted by placing it in larger letters. This righteousness of God without the law is witnessed by the law and the prophets; which means that they testify that this righteousness is righteousness indeed.

It is not obtained by seeking to obey a set of do's and don'ts; but through faith in Jesus Christ we receive the Holy Ghost (Galatians 3:14); then, as we bear the fruit of the Spirit, there is no law that will condemn us in our behaviour (Galatians 5:22-23). That is, we become law-abiding citizens of the kingdom of heaven as we bear the fruit of the Spirit (see Ezekiel 36:25-27).

This is a righteousness that comes not through the venue of trying to keep the law; however the result is that there is no violation of the law involved in the righteousness that is being spoken of.

Concerning this,



This is speaking of those who are seeking to be justified through law-keeping.

For those who know that they know that they know that they have been justified through faith in the blood of Jesus Christ, there is not a curse on them for being obedient to the law; but rather a blessing.

Jas 1:25, But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

Yep I’m pretty clear on your views

on who our viewpoints fit together in holy scripture.

As concerning condemnation, we are not under the law (Romans 6:14), are dead to the law (Romans 7:4, Galatians 2:19) and are delivered from the law (Romans 7:6).

As concerning obedience, we are under the law to Christ (1 Corinthians 9:21); that is,

the law is written on the heart and mind of New Covenant believers as concerning obedience (Hebrews 8:8-10, Herbews 10:16, Romans 8:7, Romans 8:4, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 13:8-10; Romans 5:5; 1 John 2:3-6).

Love is the fulfilling of the law (Romans 13:8-10) and faith which worketh by love is a thing in holy scripture (Galatians 5:6).

Therefore when you say that the law is not of faith, it cannot mean that the righteousness of the law is not fulfilled in us through faith. For, clearly, we receive the Holy Spirit by faith (Galatians 3:14) and if we walk according to the Spirit, the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us (Romans 8:4).

Concerning this,



Notice what I have highlighted by placing it in larger letters. This righteousness of God without the law is witnessed by the law and the prophets; which means that they testify that this righteousness is righteousness indeed.

It is not obtained by seeking to obey a set of do's and don'ts; but through faith in Jesus Christ we receive the Holy Ghost (Galatians 3:14); then, as we bear the fruit of the Spirit, there is no law that will condemn us in our behaviour (Galatians 5:22-23). That is, we become law-abiding citizens of the kingdom of heaven as we bear the fruit of the Spirit (see Ezekiel 36:25-27).

This is a righteousness that comes not through the venue of trying to keep the law; however the result is that there is no violation of the law involved in the righteousness that is being spoken of.

Concerning this,



This is speaking of those who are seeking to be justified through law-keeping.

For those who know that they know that they know that they have been justified through faith in the blood of Jesus Christ, there is not a curse on them for being obedient to the law; but rather a blessing.

Jas 1:25, But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

So I guess everyone is cursed!

Because all have sinned and come short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23).

But if anyone can be blessed (such as in James 1:25) I think that it is because they are not attempting to be justified by the law.

YOU are watering down the word! GOD (Christ is God) said sin kills us. Christ said obey me. Christ said repent of sin. James said he will show us his belief by his work. Paul said we don't make void the law through faith, but establish the law through faith.

I could go on and on with what you are ignoring because it is unforgiven sin that causes our death. Scripture consists of many verses, ALL of them are of God and truth.

If there was more than one witness, they slowly all disappeared at Jesus' statement, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

Stoning the person was required first of those who witnessed the behaviour. But those who had witnessed the behaviour were, apparently, guilty themselves; and were therefore unworthy to pronounce judgment.

You are watering own the law

The law says cursed is anyone who does not obey every word
Blik says that is wrong.

So who do we listen to. The word or Blik?

If there was more than one witness, they slowly all disappeared at Jesus' statement, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

Stoning the person was required first of those who witnessed the behaviour. But those who had witnessed the behaviour were, apparently, guilty themselves; and were therefore unworthy to pronounce judgment.

Haven't you heard the good news, Christ came to take the curse away? Now we live with Him in our hearts, in freedom and joy.

Again, you aren't reading the text closely enough. Jesus said, "The one who is without sin, let him cast the first stone." He didn't specify whether they were guilty of adultery, let alone guilty of committing adultery with that woman at that time.

You are clear on my views but you don't seem to be buying them...why is that?

Because I have given scriptural substantiation for what I have been preaching.

I think that we need to continue this conversation until one of us realizes the viewpoint of the other is correct or until we can come to a consensus on who our viewpoints fit together in holy scripture.

For it is written,

1Co 1:10, Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

because I have adopted the “ view “ of what scripture says and some of what you are saying you are adding and no those scripture numbers you reference don’t say what you are saying is the thing

Yes we are. As jesus said, No one is GOOD but GOD.

Barnabas was a good man; full of the Holy Ghost and faith (Acts 11:22-24).

Many in the old testement were referred to as righteous, yet David said:
Do not bring your servant into judgement, for no one living is righteous before you Psalms 143:2

The bible does not contradict itself. So, we must consider no one was truly righteous before God as no one could perfectly obey the law, but God would consider people as righteous, bearing in mind human limitations.
Also, no one is truly good except God, but God would consider people good, taking into account human limitations

because I have adopted the “ view “ of what scripture says and some of what you are saying you are adding and no those scripture numbers you reference don’t say what you are saying is the thing

Many in the old testement were referred to as righteous, yet David said: Do not bring your servant into judgement, for no one living is righteous before you Psalms 143:2. The bible does not contradict itself.