Without authentic Jews, Premillennialism doesn't have a view.

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JaumeJ

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"You say, oh well they have Abraham ...well, Abraham was about Faith in The City built without hands ...and as i already said ...that is The Kingdom of The Body of CHRIST ...what more can i say to get through to them? "

"To say the Old Covenant is still active just so you can claim Jews are still a thing ...is to say JESUS didn't make a New One."
Sorry, I did not see this. Where have I said anything as to the content of what you have posted? I am able to repeat Yeshua's teaching to all that He did not come to destroy the law but to complete it. He went on to say anyone teaching against the least of theme will be least in Heaven. Learn what He wa saying before deciding He is not talking to all. God bless you.
 

Aidan1

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There isn't anymore Tribes, 70 A.D. ended them ...you being a Messianic Jew ...are the only type of Jew that can exist.
Then you should read the book of revealation 7,4-8. One day a part of today Israel will turn to Christ. Also Jesus will rule in Jerusalem one day.
If you dont believe, you will see.
 
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pittsburghjoe ------is content to make up Doctrine ------The real truth doesn't matter ---so sad :confused: ---

Watch Out Folks for

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Mark 1:14-15
Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

Matthew 4:23
And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.

Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.


 
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JESUS was telling Jews that The Kingdom was at hand ...you really think The Kingdom is in the future when Jews are not even a thing anymore?
 
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.... Faith in The City built without hands ...and as i already said ...that is The Kingdom of The Body of CHRIST ...what more can i say to get through to them? "

one was deceived from the inside. when a person is deceived from the inside, it takes a whole lot to bring
them to a place of breaking.

when...they think the world works the way they imagine, and they will
bypass every opportunity to better themselves

waiting for the world to turn the way they imagine, so they will never be successful and they will become

increasingly bitter and frustrated because the world isn't working like you thought it was because you
thought you could make it work the way you thought it
because you thought it

and you never even noticed you were being deceived. and we tried to tell you it didn't work like that but
you won't hear us

because in your mind - you are tyrannical. you're your own King. you're kind of going a litle bit further -

you're your own King, you don't respect respect anybody above you, you don't respect anybody above your own
opinion

because there's not much room in your life for God. because your opinion has become your god. so change
becomes difficult for you to acheive

because you are so intoxicated with how you thought it was going to be - that you lost your 20s, your 30s
and now you're over into your 40s and if you're not careful you'll be in your 50s and world will have been
passing

you by by buying buildings, buying property, spreading out land, taking over territory, moving on the internet,
working on the metaverse, and you'll be stuck in your own skin

waiting on it to be like what you had in mind because what you had in mind has become your god.

my fear for you is that by the time you have an awakinging an epiphany - you won't have time , you won't
have time, you won't have time

but then your knees are going to start to break, by then your back is going to start to swell, by then
your teeth are going to start to fall and you won't

have time to respond to the epiphany because you need to have the epiphany while you still have the strength
to go back another way. ....

i need to have the strength to go back another way. i need to be able to
recreate myself, but i can't recreate myself, because i can't admit i was wrong.

because i've got pride and i'm wrong and when i got pride - my pride becomes more important than
my progress. and when your pride becomes more important than your progress you'll

keep the pride at the expense of the progress and never go any further than what you could have gone
because you are intoxicated - withe deception. self-deception.

it's how you decided it was. it's the way - you want it to work.
 
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one was deceived from the inside. when a person is deceived from the inside, it takes a whole lot to bring
them to a place of breaking.

when...they think the world works the way they imagine, and they will
bypass every opportunity to better themselves

waiting for the world to turn the way they imagine, so they will never be successful and they will become

increasingly bitter and frustrated because the world isn't working like you thought it was because you
thought you could make it work the way you thought it
because you thought it

and you never even noticed you were being deceived. and we tried to tell you it didn't work like that but
you won't hear us

because in your mind - you are tyrannical. you're your own King. you're kind of going a litle bit further -

you're your own King, you don't respect respect anybody above you, you don't respect anybody above your own
opinion

because there's not much room in your life for God. because your opinion has become your god. so change
becomes difficult for you to acheive

because you are so intoxicated with how you thought it was going to be - that you lost your 20s, your 30s
and now you're over into your 40s and if you're not careful you'll be in your 50s and world will have been
passing

you by by buying buildings, buying property, spreading out land, taking over territory, moving on the internet,
working on the metaverse, and you'll be stuck in your own skin

waiting on it to be like what you had in mind because what you had in mind has become your god.

my fear for you is that by the time you have an awakinging an epiphany - you won't have time , you won't
have time, you won't have time

but then your knees are going to start to break, by then your back is going to start to swell, by then
your teeth are going to start to fall and you won't

have time to respond to the epiphany because you need to have the epiphany while you still have the strength
to go back another way. ....

i need to have the strength to go back another way. i need to be able to
recreate myself, but i can't recreate myself, because i can't admit i was wrong.

because i've got pride and i'm wrong and when i got pride - my pride becomes more important than
my progress. and when your pride becomes more important than your progress you'll

keep the pride at the expense of the progress and never go any further than what you could have gone
because you are intoxicated - withe deception. self-deception.

it's how you decided it was. it's the way - you want it to work.


We Need an Epiphany! - Bishop T.D. Jakes
 
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JESUS was telling Jews that The Kingdom was at hand ...you really think The Kingdom is in the future when Jews are not even a thing anymore?
When did this take place?

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and the power of judging was given to them; and I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God; and of those who had not worshiped the beast, nor his image, and had not received his mark on their forehead, nor on their hand; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

When did the people of the WORLD, not Jews, but ALL PEOPLE who were beheaded ruled with Christ for a 1,000 years?
 
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When did this take place?

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and the power of judging was given to them; and I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God; and of those who had not worshiped the beast, nor his image, and had not received his mark on their forehead, nor on their hand; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

When did the people of the WORLD, not Jews, but ALL PEOPLE who were beheaded ruled with Christ for a 1,000 years?
Again, you Premills can only be literal.


The thousand years might have started at Revelation 14:8

"And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication."

Scripture saying the thousand is an indefinite amount:

Joshua 23:10

One man of you shall chase a thousand: for the LORD your God, he it is that fighteth for you, as he hath promised you.

Psalm 50:10

For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills.

Deuteronomy 7:9

Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;
 
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Again, you Premills can only be literal.


The thousand years might have started at Revelation 14:8

"And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication."

Scripture saying the thousand is an indefinite amount:

Joshua 23:10

One man of you shall chase a thousand: for the LORD your God, he it is that fighteth for you, as he hath promised you.

Psalm 50:10

For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills.

Deuteronomy 7:9

Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;
I don't care about the time issue, I WANT TO KNOW WHEN THERE WAS A WORLDWIDE BEHEADING AND THEY RULED WITH CHRIST EVEN FOR ONE DAY?
 
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What year was it when the Beheaded was FORCED by the BEAST to Choose accept the Mark or be Beheaded?
 
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I am saved and can buy, sell, without the Beast Number.

So, what year did this happen?
 
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The Jews in Jerusalem were scattered and we know they went all throughout Europe and eventually the United States. So, that has always existed it just was not yet discovered. But the parts of Europe the Jews escaped to, NERO, did not conquer.

So, taking all of Europe and middle East into question, when did the Worldwide Mass Beheading happen?
 
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YOU SAID NERO IS THE BEAST AND IT WAS HIS NUMBER AND RULE THAT WAS ENFORCED IN 70 A.D.

The Beast of the Bible conquers the ENTIRE WORLD.

At the time of Nero, Europe and Middle East plus other regions existed. He DID NOT CONQUER THEM. So, he NEVER DID ENFORCE his rule upon the known world.

So I ask again:

The Jews in Jerusalem were scattered and we know they went all throughout Europe and eventually the United States. So, that has always existed it just was not yet discovered. But the parts of Europe the Jews escaped to, NERO, did not conquer.

So, taking all of Europe and middle East into question, when did the Worldwide Mass Beheading happen?
 

studentoftheword

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Here is a Jew --who is proud to be one ------and you say the Jews are no longer ----just listen to Ben

 
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Here is a Jew --who is proud to be one ------and you say the Jews are no longer ----just listen to Ben

They didn't wear those when JESUS was here. i hear they originally had them when working for pharaoh ...and took them off at Exodus ...they put them back on to pay homage to the snake.
 
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Everyone wants to defend these fake Jews because they understand who GOD The Father is ...that's just not good enough. They reject THE WAY to The Father. They read Scripture with their animal side ...nothing more. It's like complaining that a history teacher doesn't automatically become Saved. The truth is, you just want them around for your Premill view to work.
 
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We don't have authentic Jews walking around ...we have unsaved historians that happen to know something about GOD. GOD Set what an authentic Jew is and it involves a High Priest and Atonement. pharisees don't get to make their own definition.

Making your own definition is what eating from the tree of knowledge is about.
 

studentoftheword

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They reject THE WAY to The Father. They read Scripture with their animal side ...nothing more.
Yes they did and many still do reject Jesus as their Messiah ----and many Jews have received Jesus ----But to God His Love is there for all His Chosen Jewish Nation just as it is for all Gentile Unbelievers ----

God wants ALL PEOPLE SAVED and that is why ALL Unbelievers ---will go through the Tribulation -----many will be saved ----all people have to Receives Jesus in their hearts by and through Faith in Him alone ------

The Jews are no different --God will open their hearts to Receive Jesus as their Lord and Saviour -------and according to Revelation ---will preach the Gospel to others through the tribulation period -----that is Scriptural ---look it up for yourself ------God's chosen will be saved ------


Question for you -------Why do you think God chose the Jewish Nation in the beginning to be His Chosen Nation ---
DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER ???????????


I await to hear from you on that -----