No, but you misunderstand to whom the promises were made. Scripture tells us they are Christ's and those in Christ. Not all descendants of Israel inherit the promises. Christ does. Therefore those in Christ inherit the promises.
You broke down the Abrahamic promises into three separate promises. Let's suppose this is the case for a moment. Let's call them promises 1 through 3 like you suggest.
You then argue that Gal 3:16 only applies to a subset of these Abrahamic promises and specifically excludes promise 1.
First Question: how are you coming to this conclusion?
In Christ there is a nation from Abraham, and the land claims outlined in Gen 15 are also Christ's. Anything in Gen 17 is also Christ's. Gal 3:16 necessarily indicates that the promises in Gen 15 and Gen 17 are Christ's.
1 Peter 2 undoubtedly seems to indicate there is in fact a nation in Christ:
"If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious. To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious, Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. [...] But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy." - 1 Peter 2:2-5&9-10 KJV
Those in Christ are Abraham's seed:
"And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." - Gal 3:29 KJV
Scripture says that the promises (including the land promise) goes to Abraham's seed. Scripture says that seed is Christ. Even without Gal 3:16, Christ is Abraham's seed. Gal 3:16 just states that the promises are exclusive to Christ (and those in Christ).
If Christians controlled all of the land mentioned in Gen 15, that promise would be fulfilled. How can you possibly disagree with that?
If you don't believe that you either don't believe 1) that Christ is the seed of Abraham or you don't believe 2) that those in Christ are actually in Christ and heirs to the promise per Gal 3:29. To deny that premise is to deny scripture.
To recap:
You claimed users were saying "God's a liar!" when they weren't. You then backtracked and claimed that those users claimed "God won't keep His promises! (and is therefore a liar)" which they didn't. And then you backtracked and stated the Abraham's promises weren't for Christ and therefore "unfulfilled promises would make God a liar". You were shown that Gal 3:16 says "promises", then backtracked and proposed that there were two different sets of promises of which some were Christ's and some were for nonChristians exclusively. You presented three promises and claimed that the promise of a nation could not be Christ's. Is your position that there is no nation in Christ? I think you're not thinking through what you are saying.
Let's look at this another way. Do all of the descendants / seed of Abraham have the land at the same time? Does that mean they all have to be collected into the same land? Would this include the dead? Or only the living? If it is not 100% of the descendants of Abraham that are required to fulfil the promise (only that some descendants have the land), which ones would it be needed in order to fulfil that promise?
You broke down the Abrahamic promises into three separate promises. Let's suppose this is the case for a moment. Let's call them promises 1 through 3 like you suggest.
You then argue that Gal 3:16 only applies to a subset of these Abrahamic promises and specifically excludes promise 1.
First Question: how are you coming to this conclusion?
In Christ there is a nation from Abraham, and the land claims outlined in Gen 15 are also Christ's. Anything in Gen 17 is also Christ's. Gal 3:16 necessarily indicates that the promises in Gen 15 and Gen 17 are Christ's.
1 Peter 2 undoubtedly seems to indicate there is in fact a nation in Christ:
"If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious. To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious, Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. [...] But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy." - 1 Peter 2:2-5&9-10 KJV
Those in Christ are Abraham's seed:
"And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." - Gal 3:29 KJV
Scripture says that the promises (including the land promise) goes to Abraham's seed. Scripture says that seed is Christ. Even without Gal 3:16, Christ is Abraham's seed. Gal 3:16 just states that the promises are exclusive to Christ (and those in Christ).
If Christians controlled all of the land mentioned in Gen 15, that promise would be fulfilled. How can you possibly disagree with that?
If you don't believe that you either don't believe 1) that Christ is the seed of Abraham or you don't believe 2) that those in Christ are actually in Christ and heirs to the promise per Gal 3:29. To deny that premise is to deny scripture.
To recap:
You claimed users were saying "God's a liar!" when they weren't. You then backtracked and claimed that those users claimed "God won't keep His promises! (and is therefore a liar)" which they didn't. And then you backtracked and stated the Abraham's promises weren't for Christ and therefore "unfulfilled promises would make God a liar". You were shown that Gal 3:16 says "promises", then backtracked and proposed that there were two different sets of promises of which some were Christ's and some were for nonChristians exclusively. You presented three promises and claimed that the promise of a nation could not be Christ's. Is your position that there is no nation in Christ? I think you're not thinking through what you are saying.
Let's look at this another way. Do all of the descendants / seed of Abraham have the land at the same time? Does that mean they all have to be collected into the same land? Would this include the dead? Or only the living? If it is not 100% of the descendants of Abraham that are required to fulfil the promise (only that some descendants have the land), which ones would it be needed in order to fulfil that promise?
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