"Not Physically Attracted Enough" - Vs - "Friendship that Catches Fire"

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I think with OP is problem is the lass is not attracted to him rather than hes not attracted to her.

so the solution is the OP needs to attach some magnets to his body and learn how to have more fun on dates


I mean nobody asked what they actually DID on those dates
Did they just sit around in a restaurant eating and talking? For most women, thats kinda boring. Especially if all the guy does is talk about himself and proceeds to stuff his face
Or did they go bungee jumping or something?
 

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As a Christian, I would say that if the relationship is the will of God and is blessed by Him, He will make it works--you will be attracted to her and she will be attracted to you. God who moves the mountains.
 

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I had clay, but sometimes it went hard and you couldnt mould it, but with slime, its goopy and doesn thave any shape but you can always squish it. You cant BREAK slime.
What's your take on Play Doh?
 
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"Not Physically Attracted Enough" - Vs - "Friendship that Catches Fire"
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WARNING, ADULT TALK AHEAD:

Perhaps I can speak from the weight of sin, a lesson I learned about attraction. Don't take this as a fix-all, an excuse for sin, or as advice that you should try this to see. Take it as information on if you meet someone whom you find peace with, but are just not quite there on her/him matching the pin-up you may have had in your mind
As a serial fornicator in my youth, I learned and proved to myself, after numerous one-night stands with people I wasn't all that interested in, but chased for convenience, that by conjugal acts, one actually gains an attraction to their partner. Hence, I think, the worldly term "making love." There are biological reasons for this, but the Bible says there are Spiritual reasons as well. By the act, you gain a desire for the physical company of the partner. This doesn't make your mental and spiritual relationship better. Only Jesus can do that.

This, in my weak form of fleshly translation, suggests to me that if you have someone you love talking with, enjoy being around in comfort, and trust as a kin in The Lord Jesus, but you're not quite sure if you're gonna be able to keep a flame, rest assured that God has designed you to keep that flame, if you keep your oaths and practice care as a team.
Said crudely like we were in high-school, you can upgrade the score on your partner, from a 6 to an 8, etc. etc.
Besides, the passionate part of marriage is about 20-25 years, depending on how old you are when you're married. You'll start sagging in weird places, get strange hairs and spots, and eventually prune. The rest of it is, quite frankly, working with each other to raise the kids God gave you, and in learning to let this world go as you age out of your time here. And in those ventures, a good friend is worth WAY more than a pinup that drags. Especially in a time like this.
 
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Oh, and one more thing, both men and women are rated higher in attractiveness when they are in a good relationship. So not only will your brain make an upgrade to your partner's ranking, your very presence with your partner (2 or more, perhaps?) will (all other things equal, the creek don't rise and God willing) actually upgrade your partner's appearance, and general pleasantness.
 

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Gravity is always attractive 'I fell for him'

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"Not Physically Attracted Enough" - Vs - "Friendship that Catches Fire"

I recently started a relationship with a good christian woman who gave me her contact info. We've communicated via text and have gotten to know each other for a few months. We went out on two dates. (I know they we dates, cause I paid for them. ;))

I definitely like her as a person, and a friend, although we didn't have such a fun time that I'm inspired to hangout with her again. The physical attraction isn't there for me, so I decided I should stop asking her out... beyond friendly chats.

Although I didn't find her physically attractive upfront, I didn't want to jump to conclusions, and wanted to spend some time with her to see if that might change. I would assume people do that, especially women, because they get asked out. What's your experience? What's your advice?


What's your thoughts on "dating" people you're not physically attracted to?

1. It was suggested to me that I go out with, and get to know women, I'm not immediately physically attracted to because a physical attraction -- or some other kind of attraction -- might occur in the future. What's your thoughts on that? Has it ever happened to you?


I've heard a number of christian speakers talk about: "Love is when friendship catches fire!"

When I hear these messages, I roll my eyes. I'd like to go up front and ask them, "Is this YOUR personal experience? When you met your wife, did you first think she was ugly as sin, but then after you knew her for a while, then BAM you fell in love, and now you can't keep your hands off her?"

It's one thing to become particularly physically attracted someone after you've known them for a while... like if you're part of the same group or organization; it's another thing to date someone you definitely do not find physically attractive, and then that changes. I think former happens sometimes, but I doubt the latter does.

That is to say: I think there may be someone you didn't really "think about" as 'your type', or someone you didn't particularly find attractive at first, or someone who annoyed you, and then after you got to know them overtime you then "noticed" they WERE particularly attractive to you. That's more like going from "neutral", "absent minded", or annoyed to physically attracted... as opposed to 'definitely not physically attracted' to a "friendship catching on fire".

There's also the risk of leading someone on when it's 99% assured romantic love is not going to happen.

2. Different for Women?
Experientially, I've found the situation is generally different for women. My mother told me she went out with guys she didn't find physically attractive just go out and have some fun. When the guys asked her about it, she'd have to admit she was using them (though she didn't describe that way, she acknowledged it was wrong and cruel). Also, since men ask out women, a woman may not have given it (him) much thought and wants to be open-minded about it, or doesn't want to hurt the man's feelings, or she's just 'hedging her bets'... that is, she wants to keep some "second choices" and "better-than-nothing choices" in play while she's waiting to see if her Prince ever arrives. Additionally, before women were welcomed in the workplace, some women dated and married based mostly on the 'life the husband could provide her' rather than if she was physically attracted to him. I suppose if she loves and stays faithfully married to him, it's fine. Thoughts?
I doubt I can give a helpful answer here lol as Ive never been on a date but Ive been married.
How would you date someone not physically attractive enough? Would the date be set up or you met online?
I think friendships can catch fire and move into love as most people I know became friends first as colleagues or knew each other from school/church.
Im one of those people that find it hard to see people as unattractive. Theres always one thing that I zone in on that I like.
 

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Ive heard a number of christian speakers talk about how love (a love relationship between a man and a woman) is when a "friendship catches fire"... "catches fire" means becomes romantic and/or they become physically attracted to each other.

My aunt gave me a cassette tape of one of these presentations once.

They are suggesting the "best love relationship", or the "best way to find a spouse", is when you become friends first, and then




I think with OP is problem is the lass is not attracted to him rather than hes not attracted to her.

so the solution is the OP needs to attach some magnets to his body and learn how to have more fun on dates


I mean nobody asked what they actually DID on those dates
Did they just sit around in a restaurant eating and talking? For most women, thats kinda boring. Especially if all the guy does is talk about himself and proceeds to stuff his face
Or did they go bungee jumping or something?
Hopefully she is on this site and can give her version of events 🤣
 

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Sculpt what is your idea of physical attractiveness? Do you have a biblical character or celebrity lol in mind?
 

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"Not Physically Attracted Enough" - Vs - "Friendship that Catches Fire"

I recently started a relationship with a good christian woman who gave me her contact info. We've communicated via text and have gotten to know each other for a few months. We went out on two dates. (I know they we dates, cause I paid for them. ;))

I definitely like her as a person, and a friend, although we didn't have such a fun time that I'm inspired to hangout with her again. The physical attraction isn't there for me, so I decided I should stop asking her out... beyond friendly chats.

Although I didn't find her physically attractive upfront, I didn't want to jump to conclusions, and wanted to spend some time with her to see if that might change. I would assume people do that, especially women, because they get asked out. What's your experience? What's your advice?


What's your thoughts on "dating" people you're not physically attracted to?

1. It was suggested to me that I go out with, and get to know women, I'm not immediately physically attracted to because a physical attraction -- or some other kind of attraction -- might occur in the future. What's your thoughts on that? Has it ever happened to you?


I've heard a number of christian speakers talk about: "Love is when friendship catches fire!"

When I hear these messages, I roll my eyes. I'd like to go up front and ask them, "Is this YOUR personal experience? When you met your wife, did you first think she was ugly as sin, but then after you knew her for a while, then BAM you fell in love, and now you can't keep your hands off her?"

It's one thing to become particularly physically attracted someone after you've known them for a while... like if you're part of the same group or organization; it's another thing to date someone you definitely do not find physically attractive, and then that changes. I think former happens sometimes, but I doubt the latter does.

That is to say: I think there may be someone you didn't really "think about" as 'your type', or someone you didn't particularly find attractive at first, or someone who annoyed you, and then after you got to know them overtime you then "noticed" they WERE particularly attractive to you. That's more like going from "neutral", "absent minded", or annoyed to physically attracted... as opposed to 'definitely not physically attracted' to a "friendship catching on fire".

There's also the risk of leading someone on when it's 99% assured romantic love is not going to happen.

2. Different for Women?
Experientially, I've found the situation is generally different for women. My mother told me she went out with guys she didn't find physically attractive just go out and have some fun. When the guys asked her about it, she'd have to admit she was using them (though she didn't describe that way, she acknowledged it was wrong and cruel). Also, since men ask out women, a woman may not have given it (him) much thought and wants to be open-minded about it, or doesn't want to hurt the man's feelings, or she's just 'hedging her bets'... that is, she wants to keep some "second choices" and "better-than-nothing choices" in play while she's waiting to see if her Prince ever arrives. Additionally, before women were welcomed in the workplace, some women dated and married based mostly on the 'life the husband could provide her' rather than if she was physically attracted to him. I suppose if she loves and stays faithfully married to him, it's fine. Thoughts?
I probably see marriage far differently than most. I don't believe in dating per se, and certainly not to "have fun".

My husband never so much as held my hand prior to marriage, and the first time he ever even touched me was when we were walking into the courthouse to get our marriage license, and then he drew tiny circles on my back with his finger.

I'm not sure I had physical attraction at all prior to marriage - but I did love him deeply as a person.

The physical attraction came after marriage.

Nursing an infant releases hormones that create a bond between mother and child. Those same hormones are released with orgasm, and likewise creates a bond between the spouses.

Is the physical a consideration? Maybe, but I don't know what role it really plays. So many people confuse lust with love, or the potential for it but that's not the same, or in my own eyes not that important; we are wonderfully made and when we follow God's plan for us we find happiness.

When you truly love a person you will want the physical during marriage, I believe. It certainly has been in my experience.
 

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Attraction IS important IMHO.
However, there's more to attraction than the beauty that is skin deep.
PLUS, you need to get to know the person so it's not just infatuation with the superficial first impressions.
At some point, you will have conflict. How both handle the conflicts is more important than any highschool or twenty something knows. That's why it's so important that parents and grandparents teach this principal and biblical tools for these.
 

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I probably see marriage far differently than most. I don't believe in dating per se, and certainly not to "have fun".

My husband never so much as held my hand prior to marriage, and the first time he ever even touched me was when we were walking into the courthouse to get our marriage license, and then he drew tiny circles on my back with his finger.

I'm not sure I had physical attraction at all prior to marriage - but I did love him deeply as a person.

The physical attraction came after marriage.

Nursing an infant releases hormones that create a bond between mother and child. Those same hormones are released with orgasm, and likewise creates a bond between the spouses.

Is the physical a consideration? Maybe, but I don't know what role it really plays. So many people confuse lust with love, or the potential for it but that's not the same, or in my own eyes not that important; we are wonderfully made and when we follow God's plan for us we find happiness.

When you truly love a person you will want the physical during marriage, I believe. It certainly has been in my experience.
Great perspective.
Not very many couples keep themselves from temptation prior to marriage it seems.
 

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Hopefully she is on this site and can give her version of events 🤣
Nope, she's not on this site. Did you read the OP (original post), or are you just posting based on the thread title?

I doubt I can give a helpful answer here lol as Ive never been on a date but Ive been married.
How would you date someone not physically attractive enough?
You call or message them and say, "Hey, Brandy, want to go out to dinner this Saturday?" Why do you ask? Are you aware of some special regulations or forms to fill out? = p

Im one of those people that find it hard to see people as unattractive. Theres always one thing that I zone in on that I like.
You're a lucky man. You want to date/marry every woman on earth... Only marital status, state law' restrictions on age, and omnipresence are preventing you?

Sculpt what is your idea of physical attractiveness?
What's my "idea" of physical attractiveness? On an individual basis: it's subjective what any individual would find physically (sexually) attractive. Don't you think?

Do you have a biblical character or celebrity lol in mind?
Well, I don't think I could trust any of the illustrated depictions in the Bible Picture Book. :p Plus, I think they're all now deceased. Nope, I don't have any celebrities in mind. I prefer to be surprised. I want an original. Everybody looks different to me, even identical twins.
 

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Nope, she's not on this site. Did you read the OP (original post), or are you just posting based on the thread title?


You call or message them and say, "Hey, Brandy, want to go out to dinner this Saturday?" Why do you ask? Are you aware of some special regulations or forms to fill out? = p


You're a lucky man. You want to date/marry every woman on earth... Only marital status, state law' restrictions on age, and omnipresence are preventing you?


What's my "idea" of physical attractiveness? On an individual basis: it's subjective what any individual would find physically (sexually) attractive. Don't you think?


Well, I don't think I could trust any of the illustrated depictions in the Bible Picture Book. :p Plus, I think they're all now deceased. Nope, I don't have any celebrities in mind. I prefer to be surprised. I want an original. Everybody looks different to me, even identical twins.
Yes I did read your original post. I was replying to another member in jest with comment 1. Im also replying and making errors along the way with not quoting people and quoting the wrong people :p I will get better at it :)
Comment 2 - I meant if you base attraction and dating on the physical looks, then how or why would you even ask someone who is not attractive to you out on a date? Hence why I said is it a date where you dont see each other before said date.
Comment 3 - Im a woman. Am I lucky -Yes I have been saved. I dont want to date/marry every man on earth whether I find them attractive or not. Im legally married so its a moot point for me.
Comment 4 - Yes it is subjective..But Im not in my 20s so I no longer rely on the external.
Comment 5 - I still have my childhood illustrated Bible lol We are all original even the lookalike clones walking around.
Have a great day!
 

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Comment 2 - I meant if you base attraction and dating on the physical looks, then how or why would you even ask someone who is not attractive to you out on a date? Hence why I said is it a date where you dont see each other before said date.
That is an excellent question. I don't think I was making a formal declaration on that issue, but rather exploring the whole issue. On a side note, when you go out with someone, I guess whether it's strictly defined as a "date" can be a little murky. To answer your question, I did go out on two dates with the gal I didn't find particularly physically attractive. I did see and speak to her in person briefly before we went out. I didn't really remember what she looked like, but I did see her on FB. I guess that would confirm I don't exclusively date people I find particularly physically attractive.
 

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I thought people went on BLIND dates just for this reason
Also, they say love is blind

Not sure if its just blind people that say that, but nobody ever says love is deaf.