Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

I read post 1068 and found nothing about the Earth being flat. Do you have a verse? I suspect you are just joking, but many people are very gullible and easily swayed by the silliest of things. Be nice and tell them you just joking. We have many confused and unstable people here at CC. Have a heart.

BTW, I do realize that we are lied to every day by the world around us. Let's focus on the REAL lies.

What you may not understand is that the LATEST GREATEST research seems to indicate that our galaxy (and by inference the earth itself) may be the so called center of the universe.

And this is not some ancient myth I'm talking about this is the absolute latest data from from the latest and most sophisticated satellites up there.

Look up the WMAP and Planck Satellites, and the Sloan Digital sky survey. Also check out quantized redshifts data. Also check out quasar data. Check out the work oh Halton Arp.

"We are the center of everything. We are it."

I concur. But more than that, there exists very compelling scientific evidence to back up this claim.

https://creation.com/our-galaxy-is-the-centre-of-the-universe-quantized-redshifts-show

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/redshift-quantization.283049/

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23301-planck-shows-almost-perfect-cosmos-plus-axis-of-evil/

http://www.reach-unlimited.com/p/10...a-confirm-earth-may-be-the-center-of-universe

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~huterer/PRESS/CMB_Huterer.pdf

Gravity is not a LAW = if you can grasp this it will be like a light turned on = helium balloon.

Good Morning Brother,

Dear Brother you believe firmly in the lie of 'pre-trib rapture' = which God firmly rejects and told us not to believe - in His Word.

Peace

Water disagrees with you.

Gravity is not a LAW = if you can grasp this it will be like a light turned on = helium balloon.

Oyster and Water are very agreeable.

I have no need to “grasp” blatant idiocy.

Definitely not the response I was hoping for, but I love you anyway. Peace to you also.

Gravity exerts less force on the Helium than upon the air outside it. Your posts do facilitate interesting scientific discussions.

There is zero evidence of any force upon the helium filled balloon.

ZERO observable scientific data can be measured against the helium filled balloon that would give credence to the "theory of gravity".

The HE balloon rises purely because it is lighter then air which is the only medium it is traveling thru and pushing against against.

100% observable factual science truth 24/7 = just like Water.

If you believe in 'gravity' see if you can answer this question:

Provide evidence of exactly what technology/science is in use/application whereby the theory of gravity is negated in the helium balloon.

The HE balloon rises purely because it is lighter then air which is the only medium it is traveling thru and pushing against against.

“Lighter” and “heavier” are functions of gravity. The helium balloon doesn’t negate gravity at all, but actually reinforces it. Unfortunately, you are willfully blind to this truth so my telling you yet again won’t change your mind.

And it would not rise if there were no... Gravity acting on the air around it in a more pronounced fashion than upon the Helium.

Congratulations! You just proved the existence of a downward force affecting masses of differing densities. In order for a difference to be observed, there must be a differentiator.

Just because you disagree with me on whether or not the earth is flat or round does not mean that I am calling Jesus a liar. That is like me saying that you are biblically naive in your interpretation as to the shape of the earth. I don't think Satan gives a crap either way in regard to deception on the actual shape of the earth.

The HE Balloon rises UP because it's density/mass becomes lighter then the density of air which it passes thru/pushes against.

Lighter and heavier are functions of gravity have never been proven and you are using circular reasoning based on flawed science = theory of gravity.

Factual Science validates that heavier and lighter is based on density of mass.

The HE Balloon rises UP because it's density/mass becomes lighter then the density of air which it passes thru/pushes against.

let me repost with reiteration

Jesus says in Matthew 24 AND Mark 13, (note the two times)
“But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light;

Isaiah says in chapter 13,
"For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine."

Ezekiel says in chapter 37,
"When I extinguish you, I will cover the heavens and darken their stars. I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon will not give its light."

Joel says in chapter 2
"But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,"

if you take these to mean that men misunderstand what God said, okay, but this is completely wrong in regard to Jesus.
the word Jesus uses in both cases is the specific word to identify "something of itself" or "its own" meaning specifically "belonging to IT!"

It doesn't matter whether the bible specifically says "God made the moon to shine by itself." the bible clearly teaches that the moon "Gives its own light" NOT that "it gives the light of the sun" and this is because Jesus says so.

Jesus "specifically" SAID SO

if you claim otherwise then you are specifically and unequivocally calling Jesus, and by extension, God, a liar or a fool.

you agreed, in the absolute, (specifically said "Absolutely") in agreement with VARobs comments saying that according to "Jesus" perspective it seemed that the moon gave its own light. but if one believes that Jesus is God or speaks for God then the only understanding of those verses that I quoted of Jesus himself claiming that the moon gives "Its own light" is that God Himself Believes that the moon gives "its own light". to say anything otherwise is to outright claim that Jesus, and God by extension, are either morons or deliberately lying.
you go ahead with that all you want, but I won't blasphemy God or my savoir in such a way.
I don't care what you believe, but I do care what the bible says, and, according to your "absolute" agreement with VARob, you do not. do not lecture me on understanding of scripture when you deliberately call Jesus a liar or a fool.

to be clear, I don't disagree with you. Jesus does. and that is a dangerous disagreement.

Your profound ignorance is rather funny. You appeal to gravity while denying it.

Why doesn't the balloon go sideways or do loopty-loops?