Clyburn "US will Repeat Nazi Germany if Republicans Get Power

Absurd analogy.

Jews were innocent and slaughtered.

Babies ARE innocent and slaughtered.

They babies are forced against their will to be torn apart and discarded, or sold for parts.

Yeah. I'm thinking you been here long enough to know, if you stop peeking in, you stop getting notifications, unless someone grabs your absurd posts and responds.

I’ll have the conversation with you. I don’t know enough to dispute what you share but I ask, what would be the reason for our government to destroy the towers?

Major flaw in saying they are the only three steel buildings that collapsed due to fire. Two obvious issues. One was the damage inflicted from the impacts. And two was that these buildings were the first buildings of this size that had the internal structure supported by the outer walls. They were essentially square tubes with everything hung on the inside of the tube. It may be the only way buildings the size of the twin towers could be built as the shear weight of the steel would have been to great for conventional steel framed building. So you cannot compare them to any other steel building.

How do I turn off notifications for this thread? I'm not interested in tin foil hat conspiracy theories

911 truthers disgust me. They are attempting to let Islam off the hook for what they did to us on 9/11.

Relax, the US went and bombed Iraq and Afghanistan for 20 years,

Major flaw in saying they are the only three steel buildings that collapsed due to fire. Two obvious issues. One was the damage inflicted from the impacts. And two was that these buildings were the first buildings of this size that had the internal structure supported by the outer walls. They were essentially square tubes with everything hung on the inside of the tube. It may be the only way buildings the size of the twin towers could be built as the shear weight of the steel would have been to great for conventional steel framed building. So you cannot compare them to any other steel building.

At the risk of being redundant as long as there are countries who are living in the 14th century with access to 21st century weapons, America will always have a presence in Middle Eastern countries. Some call it imperialism, I call it self-defense
But if you think your government is that bad, go over there and live with them and see how Christians are treated over there.

I have two friends who were very high up in the US government at the time of 9/11. I asked them about it and they gave me a MIT study which according to them "explained it". The study was quite technical so I don't blame them for not understanding it. However, the study said the same thing I am saying now, just a little more diplomatically. They said it was highly unlikely that the official narrative is true, but if it were true this is how it might be true.

It was a joke. This is what someone who gets their funding from the US government, doesn't want to offend them, and was told to "explain how this happened a certain way" and so did what they were told even though at the same time they were signaling to other scientists this is not their theory nor would it be.

The only people who don't want the truth about what happened on 9/11 are the ones who hate this country and despise the people in it. If you care about the US you want the truth, you want a thorough and comprehensive investigation, you want to go after the real bad guys. The same is true with JFK assassination.

The reason steel frame buildings don't collapse is because you have to get to about 2,200 degrees F for steel to melt. Jet fuel burns at around 500 degrees F. However, if you had a perfect air fuel mixture and put the tip of the flame directly under the steel you might be able to get it to 1500 degrees F which in turn might cause steel to soften up enough, under the weight and deform and give way.

Here is the problem, we saw black smoke coming out of the tower, that means the fire was starved for oxygen, so it didn't get to 1500 degrees. Second, the building collapsed straight down which means every single support had to collapse at the same time. No one would expect that, we would expect the tower to bow in like a can being crushed, tip over and fall.

Third problem, we could have easily confirmed this if the investigators had been able to see the steel, but the military put it under lock and key and guarded it, preventing the investigators from seeing it and then shipped it off to China to be melted down destroying evidence.

Fourth problem, the US has a fantastic facility that can replicate a fire in a 3 story building. They could have replicated the fire from the airplane to see if it would have caused the steel to be deformed. We use this facility all the time to determine exactly what happened in a fire. However, they never tested their theory of the jet fuel causing the steel to break. That is the biggest insult to the 3,000 people who died, their death was even worth doing a real investigation.

Fifth problem, the fire at the world Trade center continued for 99 days. It is the longest fire in history. I was in NYC, the Fire Department was hosing the fire down for 3 months before it finally went out. They measured the temperature and it was well over 3,000 degrees, closer to 4,000 degrees F. That is not paper, that is not jet fuel, that is thermite.

That's rich saying we had our country but you're blaming our own government for murdering 3,000 americans.
That makes zero sense.
I'm going to say it again, if you think our government is that bad go over there and live with them and see how Christians are treated over there

No, you are saying that. I'm not. I don't believe the few people involved represent me or the other 350 million people. That is why the push a lie. Just like I don't believe our government assassinated JFK.

What I do believe is the people who did the deed had the ability to cover it up afterwards.

More problems with your statements. Jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning. There was people, wood, paper, plastic, rubber and more. All of it in an enclosed area. And steel doesn't have to reach melting point to become pliable. I know this because I have played around with metal working and in my experience metal can be bent or distorted with far less heat then you would think.
And yes some steel is more resistant to heat then others, but just because somebody tells you the building was made of heat resistant steel doesn't make it so as it's very possible the steel used was not what was called for in the plans.

No your claim that people who reject your tin foil hat conspiracy theories hate america.
I'm a patriot who loves my country and don't want it to go the way of europe, teachers getting their heads chopped off over drawing cartoons

No your claim that people who reject your tin foil hat conspiracy theories hate america.

I did not say that. As usual you put words in my mouth that I never said and do not believe. What I said is if you love America you would want to know who killed the 3,000 people on 9/11 at the WTC. You would want a thorough and complete investigation. We don't want to accuse Iraqis of something they had nothing to do with and go steal their oil, if you do that you justify their hating America. If that was your uncle, or your son, or daughter or spouse killed, you want to know who did it and you want to hold them accountable.

I said the only people who wouldn't want that would be people who hate our country.

You don't have to accept my theory.

We can keep doing this for Infinity if you want.
I know who killed all those Americans on 9/11. Muslims flew planes into buildings

OK, you have played around with metal (aluminum, iron, copper?) and it becomes soft and a lower temperature than melting temperature. In your experience wouldn't you expect the first joints to become soft to start to give way, deform and then the building would lean? This was a huge building and they even will admit the center of the building was a major structural support, and the airplane crashed and slid into one side of the building, to one side of that center column that housed all the elevators and it is a large block of elevators and stairways. So then why did the entire thing collapse at the same time? I would think that side of the building would deform first.

Secondly, you keep ignoring building 7. Do you realize that three buildings collapsed but only two were hit by airplanes?

Third, let's say for whatever reason the joists were weakened by the fire and so collapsed onto the floor below. Wouldn't that floor slow the descent? Wouldn't each floor act as a speed bump to the descent? Why is it that once the collapse happened the building fell at virtually the speed of free fall?

well then of course you have no objection to a full scale investigation that would confirm what you already know to be true.