Is Jesus your Lord?

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JesusLives

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You listen. Think about all I have said, I said something crazy in my op I said I would leave you all behind that I would be activated in fact I probably seemed insane but what I said was prophetic it's going to happen and it probably seems like a mystery as to what I am talking about and it is a mystery that is what the wonder of God is. I wasn't kidding when I said im done playing games I got a taste of the real thing and Im going to a place with him few know.

Think about the calling I keep speaking about I cant tell you what the calling is because I dont have the words its something only God whose words alone and by the power of his voice can speak its something you have to hear for yourself but also remember all I said about surrender it all starts there I mean really surrendering surrendering is the hardest thing to start but like I said if you have to force yourself on your knees to get into the spirit of surrender and note how I said spirit of surrender you have to sync with God in this it's something he is going to have to gently bring you to your knees in

But Surrender is an experience not an act it's when you know how it feels to be before the mighty throne of God you devote your entire being your whole will unto him in that state iyou are no longer a servant unto God you are his right hand

When you offer your everything to him in this way it changes you and your shown a depth of God you never could have dreamed your on a whole other sync with him and that is when you begin to hear the calling
I think too when we surrender we really have to examine our lives and see are we living for Him and are we living in Him? You have to be careful with the big displays of God and careful with trusting our feelings because our feelings can be ever changing. Are we trusting in God daily? Do our lives reflect that. Are we up one day and down another?

Life throws challenges at us daily and often moment by moment are we in that moment with God? Do we trust Him that he is with us and will keep us through those challenges or do we fold like a deck of cards and give up? He has promised to be with us to the end of the world do we believe it?
 

Blain

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She started off with "imitation = UNbelievers", which I don't totally agree with because unbelievers usually aren't claiming to be (or imitating) believers. Then among those who do claim it, you have those who's fruit and works show them to be unfaithful. That's why I kinda wanted a clarification from her, because typically unbelievers are not imitators.
Well she wrapped imiators with unbelievers so that is why I came to that conclusion and there are many who say they believe Christians aren't rare you find them pretty much everwhere on the map across the state but a lot of them are like a pale immitation of Christ they live in a state of unbelief .

But I let her explain what she was saying I came on here late so she may have already done so but I do think we need to dig a little deeper to what she said this is something that I can tell has a revelation planted in it
 

Blain

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I think too when we surrender we really have to examine our lives and see are we living for Him and are we living in Him? You have to be careful with the big displays of God and careful with trusting our feelings because our feelings can be ever changing. Are we trusting in God daily? Do our lives reflect that. Are we up one day and down another?

Life throws challenges at us daily and often moment by moment are we in that moment with God? Do we trust Him that he is with us and will keep us through those challenges or do we fold like a deck of cards and give up? He has promised to be with us to the end of the world do we believe it?
yes exactlyand there is power in doing all this examining ourselves in each area and ask ourselves are we really all in for Christ? Have we truly surrendered unto him? Because once this reakky happens you are kingdom minded you live for the kingdom and are graphed in the kingdom you live each moment ready for the next moment to serve him and bring forth the light and you don't hope Jesus will show up you expect it.

The kingdom is a deep hidden mystery and we can live in that kingdom we can be exposed to wonders our feeble minds could never dream of we can be the glory of God like a golden torch wherever we go but this to many sounds like a fantasy but a supercharged Christian is not a fantasy it's a reality you have to make that your ultimate standing in him the goal of being so intertwined with him and the kingdom that literally every step you take becomes holy ground.

But this is a gradual process surrender and making him our Lord is the spark that leads to the grand finale and trust me it's going to be a finale of finales but to be a part of that he needs us to get to his level to rise to the heavenly heights he wants those who would dare to believe in the possible and then bring it into reality this is the kingdom
 

Blain

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Jesus is The Lord, like it or not; He is Lord of all, end of story. Now if you are in rebellion or submitted is a whole other issue. When He quells all rebellion its best to not be one if those folks; it dont end well for them.
Impressive, your right on target.
 

Blade

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Well praise God Jesus is being preached so.. that's what matters most.
 

Blain

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Well praise God Jesus is being preached so.. that's what matters most.
Let all of heaven take note I declare this prayer in his name and my spirit concurs and confirms the words you have spoken
 

Lafftur

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Your mistake was saying doctrinal error. My testimony has nothing to do with doctrine it is about God. I experienced what did by the hand of God and because I surrendered in the moment I could feel him trying to take over I got to experience God in a way that I never dreamed and as for your comment on the word of God speaking on women pastors does it really say that or are you reading it with the lenses of your already preconcieved beliefs?

Because you may not even be aware of these lenses as you read the word of God and unless I am mistaken we are supposed to read it through the lenses of the holy spirit.

See if you honestly want truth and honestly want to understand the bible then you better get serious and drop any doctrine you think is truth.

Doctrine has done nothing but seperate the body of Christ and delde the word of God, you think God gives a crap what you or I think is truth? He is the truth and that is it and his word is exactly that his word if you really believe the bible is the word of God then you better treat it that way and listen to ever word uttered with all your attention because he is speaking and you are being quet and listening.

You are the student he is the teacher and if a student goes to listen to his teacher thinking he is right in his thinking while the teacher is speaking truth it will go right over their heads

We all need re dedicate ourselves to the word of God but do it right when you read the bible before you even open it you need to ask yourselves and ask yourself honestly do you seek truth?

You can say what will but you see I got results I experienced God on supernatual levels tell me when was the last time God filled your room with his glorious presence? I'm done playing games im moving ahead to depths with him we only read about from the bible Im going after Jesus and Im going to prove all his promises are true and I will not wait around concerning myself with doctrine and I am going to be activated I am going togo to places and be kingdom come minded and I will leave all of you behind

I seek the truth We say anything is possible with God but we dont believe that and we are lying to ourselves if we think otherwise, are we proof of this? Does the world the power of God You know the most beautiful words ever uttered from the human lips is I surrender and we need to surrender to him if we really have surrendered to him then we would live in his will and if we lived in his will we would be overflowing with life We as the church are pathetic We are so inniffective as the so called children of God and does the world see proof of this?

So back to the word of God you can have a doctrinal mind if you want but if yoou really want to know the truth of the word of God then you better leave all that at the door forget doctrine or denomination and dont assume you know or understanding anything just listen to the word of God as pure truth from the mouth of God thats it soak in this and dont call the bible the word of God if you treat it as such
Hello wonderful Blain! :love:

Good to see you on CC! You are loved! :love:(y)

How are your eyes?!!! You wrote so much, you MUST be doing a lot better!!!

I absolutely love how you speak from your heart. I too left man-made doctrines and denominations far behind long ago. Only the Word of God taught to me by the Holy Spirit. :love:(y)
 

Blain

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Hello wonderful Blain! :love:

Good to see you on CC! You are loved! :love:(y)

How are your eyes?!!! You wrote so much, you MUST be doing a lot better!!!

I absolutely love how you speak from your heart. I too left man-made doctrines and denominations far behind long ago. Only the Word of God taught to me by the Holy Spirit. :love:(y)
Oh it is so wonderful to your warm spirit again. My eyes actually are not well at all it hurts being on here and they seem to be getting worse but I am here all the same because God gave me a mission and my eyes are his to use until they go dark.

I was changed recently and I saw the truth I got a taste of the ring thing and he is molding me and teaching me as I serve him on here with every opportunity I get and doctrine is one the things I am here to knock out of the arena
 
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Is Jesus your Lord?
Jesus being Lord implies one is going to do the things he says. It’s really that simple. It means that to truly call Jesus Lord then good works works are required; obedience is required.

Good works would be anything ranging from helping those in need to obeying God.

A good work is anything that isn’t worldly and/or sinful even if there is sometimes a gray area between those things.
 
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Imagine being a manger, but 99% of your employees didn’t do anything you asked and still sincerely called you boss while expecting good things in return. Does that sound familiar?
 

JesusLives

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yes exactlyand there is power in doing all this examining ourselves in each area and ask ourselves are we really all in for Christ? Have we truly surrendered unto him? Because once this reakky happens you are kingdom minded you live for the kingdom and are graphed in the kingdom you live each moment ready for the next moment to serve him and bring forth the light and you don't hope Jesus will show up you expect it.

The kingdom is a deep hidden mystery and we can live in that kingdom we can be exposed to wonders our feeble minds could never dream of we can be the glory of God like a golden torch wherever we go but this to many sounds like a fantasy but a supercharged Christian is not a fantasy it's a reality you have to make that your ultimate standing in him the goal of being so intertwined with him and the kingdom that literally every step you take becomes holy ground.

But this is a gradual process surrender and making him our Lord is the spark that leads to the grand finale and trust me it's going to be a finale of finales but to be a part of that he needs us to get to his level to rise to the heavenly heights he wants those who would dare to believe in the possible and then bring it into reality this is the kingdom
I really liked what the three Hebrew men said before they were thrown into the fiery furnace. Our God is able to save us but if He doesn't know that we will not bow down to you no matter how many chances you give us. This made the King so mad he had the furnace stoked 7 times hotter than it was to make sure they were burned up.

The men throwing them in died from the heat and then the King says didn't we throw in three men I see four and one looks like the Son of God.

I know that God is able to save us every time if it is His will, but throughout history he hasn't saved every person some have been allowed to die, but God is always there with them and it is His plans not ours and the three Hebrew men acknowledged that. God chose to save them and they didn't even smell like smoke when they came out of the fire.
 

JesusLives

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Imagine being a manger, but 99% of your employees didn’t do anything you asked and still sincerely called you boss while expecting good things in return. Does that sound familiar?
When I ask God for things and help and then remember how many times I have ignored Him or run from Him it makes me very ashamed. I deserve nothing but He loves us so much He wants and has given us everything not holding anything back. Have we surrendered our all and everything we have to Him?
 

Lafftur

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Oh it is so wonderful to your warm spirit again. My eyes actually are not well at all it hurts being on here and they seem to be getting worse but I am here all the same because God gave me a mission and my eyes are his to use until they go dark.

I was changed recently and I saw the truth I got a taste of the ring thing and he is molding me and teaching me as I serve him on here with every opportunity I get and doctrine is one the things I am here to knock out of the arena
Sweet Blain,

God might be doing something prophetically with your eyes… trust Him.

The Old Testament prophets often performed object lessons with the prophetic message God had them deliver.

God loves you and you love Him… hang in there!

Your new resurrected body is going to have the most beautiful incredible eyes!!! All our suffering in this life will be recompensed.

Here’s a song for you… enjoy!


https://youtu.be/lZd23i7OJk4
 

Blain

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Sweet Blain,

God might be doing something prophetically with your eyes… trust Him.

The Old Testament prophets often performed object lessons with the prophetic message God had them deliver.

God loves you and you love Him… hang in there!

Your new resurrected body is going to have the most beautiful incredible eyes!!! All our suffering in this life will be recompensed.

Here’s a song for you… enjoy!


https://youtu.be/lZd23i7OJk4
Oh I have no doubt he is doing something prophetic here. I have been called a prophet before but that always made me feel wierd and didn't really accept it. But I had a time with God where I looked backed on my life and the things I said and found that a lot of what I said not only happened but the dots started to connect and I saw I really was a prophet the whole time I just didn't know I was opperating in it.

But this time it isn't just a prophetic thing it is already written in stone all I spoke about was not just prophetic it is going to lead to the grand finale
 

awelight

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Actually, I think the Bible says works and fruit are what separates the faithful and unfaithful.
Sorry for the delay in replying to your comment on my post... very busy week.

Your point would be well taken and is true; however, I was going to the root of the problem. Which is understood in this way:

Good Doctrine, leads one to sound Christian worship and living - Thus, brings forth good fruit.
Bad Doctrine, leads to error and uncertainty - which cannot bring forth Good Fruit.

I was thinking of this passage, when I posted what I said. While this passage touches on far more that just Doctrine - God's Grace causes the person (tree) to be Good and that person will listen to and be guided by Good Doctrine.

Luke 6:43 For there is no good tree that brings forth corrupt fruit; nor again a corrupt tree that brings forth good fruit.
Luke 6:44 For each tree is known by its own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.
 

awelight

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'imitation' = UNbelievers, Correct?

faithful (working/fruit bearing), and UNfaithful (carnal) believers, Correct?
Exactly my friend.

For how can one who holds to Bad Doctrine or ignores Sound Doctrine, ever produce Good Fruit? Biblical Doctrine and it's proper understanding, is how the believer differentiates between the Truth and that which is False.
 

JTB

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Sorry for the delay in replying to your comment on my post... very busy week.

Your point would be well taken and is true; however, I was going to the root of the problem. Which is understood in this way:

Good Doctrine, leads one to sound Christian worship and living - Thus, brings forth good fruit.
Bad Doctrine, leads to error and uncertainty - which cannot bring forth Good Fruit.

I was thinking of this passage, when I posted what I said. While this passage touches on far more that just Doctrine - God's Grace causes the person (tree) to be Good and that person will listen to and be guided by Good Doctrine.

Luke 6:43 For there is no good tree that brings forth corrupt fruit; nor again a corrupt tree that brings forth good fruit.
Luke 6:44 For each tree is known by its own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.
Fruit and good works are born of the Holy Spirit, not doctrine.

Doctrine is nothing more than man's attempts to pin the Word into a nice little worldly box. Yes there is good doctrine and yes there is bad doctrine. But good or bad, they are of man's making, not the Spirit's.
 

Blain

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#78
Fruit and good works are born of the Holy Spirit, not doctrine.

Doctrine is nothing more than man's attempts to pin the Word into a nice little worldly box. Yes there is good doctrine and yes there is bad doctrine. But good or bad, they are of man's making, not the Spirit's.
 

GRACE_ambassador

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Fruit and good works are born of the Holy Spirit, not doctrine.

Doctrine is nothing more than man's attempts to pin the Word into a nice little worldly box.
?huh? So, we are supposed to ignore God's [19] Commands Concerning doctrine,
because of your definition?:

Tit 2:1 But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine:

Rom_6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

1Ti_1:3 As I besought thee to abide still at Ephesus, when I went into Macedonia, that thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine,

1Ti_1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

1Ti_4:6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.

1Ti_4:13 Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.

1Ti_4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.

1Ti_5:17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

1Ti_6:1 Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.

1Ti_6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

2Ti_3:10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,

2Ti_3:16 ALL Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2Ti_4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

2Ti_4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

Tit_1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.

Tit_2:1 But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine:

Tit_2:7 In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity,

Tit 1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.

Tit_2:10 Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.

??? friend, surely you jest [ x 19 ]?
 

awelight

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Fruit and good works are born of the Holy Spirit, not doctrine.

Doctrine is nothing more than man's attempts to pin the Word into a nice little worldly box. Yes there is good doctrine and yes there is bad doctrine. But good or bad, they are of man's making, not the Spirit's.
Sadly, it sounds as if you are under some kind of strong delusion here. Either of your own making or the making of another. To take what you are saying to it's final end, would imply it's okay to just throw away the Bible.