Submit and Obey

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Dino246

Dino246

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SandWhich said:
Even if that was true, 2 wrongs do not make it right.

Besides all that God is watching all this, and I know what He see's.
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The apostrophe is unnecessary, as is the attitude.
 
MessengerofTruth

MessengerofTruth

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SandWhich said:
Hebrews 13:17
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves:
for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account,
that they may do it with joy, and not with grief:
for that is unprofitable for you.


What do you have to say to this,
that is written in the book of Hebrews
concerning you? If I had rule over you
would you obey me and submit yourselves to it?
Or would you rebel and not live by this written in the book of Hebrews
as you are commanded by it?[/
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SandWhich said:
Do you have a pastor that rules over you and is accountable for you to the Lord? Yes or no?
If you do not answer with a yes I will assume it is a NO.

If not then why not?
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We are called to be discerning as to whom we would submit ourselves to in respect to a spiritual leader.

"You will know them by their fruits." Jesus
 
Dino246

Dino246

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SandWhich said:
You all are wasting your time trying to provoke me to anger and
post something to get me banned.

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN,

In fact God see's it.

Which suits me just fine.
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Gee... it seems like we have been quite successful in provoking you to anger... even if that isn't the primary goal.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb

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SandWhich said:
Is this working for you?
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Sure is, I think we have you pretty much painted into the corner. It's like talking to a magic 8 ball.
Yes or no, yes or no, yes or no. No other questions are clearly answered. That is called trolling. I've been here a long time you all are easy to spot.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb

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SandWhich said:
You all are wasting your time trying to provoke me to anger and
post something to get me banned.

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN,

In fact God see's it.

Which suits me just fine.
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Asking you to stop being obnoxious and answer like a mature adult is provoking you? Are you a millennial?
 
soberxp

soberxp

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SandWhich said:
I belong with them that not only believe this:

Hebrews 13:17
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves:
for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account,
that they may do it with joy, and not with grief:
for that is unprofitable for you.

But adheres to it, word for word as it is written.
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People are always rebellious, or has no eyes or ears, no matter how true the rule is, as long as the person is not aware of the rule, it doesn't matter for him.
 
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Gideon300

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SandWhich said:
I take it you will not submit or obey.
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Not to you. I don't know you from Adam and I submit to Christ in another believer, not to that person's flesh.

It's a two way street. If the elder/pastor fulfills his role in Christ, then I will submit without complaint. I submit to my wife at times because she has spiritual gifts that help me. Other times I say no, and she submits to me because she knows what it means.
 
Blade

Blade

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Again it was written to the local Church and us. Those how are leaders in the Church you obey. You posted it "for they watch" Gee who would that be? Say a pastor or such? We always need someone over us or we can be easily deceived.
 
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Niki7

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#115
user profile is not available for mr sandwich...or sandwhich as he prefers to be known

what does that mean?
 
2ndTimeIsTheCharm

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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Niki7 said:
user profile is not available for mr sandwich...or sandwhich as he prefers to be known

what does that mean?
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It used to be accessible .... until we started suspecting he was someone that was banned from here before. :sneaky:
 
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ButterflyJones

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SandWhich said:
Hebrews 13:17
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves:
for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account,
that they may do it with joy, and not with grief:
for that is unprofitable for you.


What do you have to say to this,
that is written in the book of Hebrews
concerning you? If I had rule over you
would you obey me and submit yourselves to it?
Or would you rebel and not live by this written in the book of Hebrews
as you are commanded by it?
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Jesus said to test the spirits and see if they are of God. Not to believe every spirit.

Imagine that verse when the AC comes to power.

No.
 
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