Gay Christian?

In order for their "union" to be called a called a marriage, the word "marriage" has to be redefined from what it has meant for all 6000 yrs of prior human history. Just because a corrupt, perverse, society and government calls them married, doesn't make it so.

This has to be some sort of a joke. CHRISTIANS BEAT UP ON GAYS!!? Where have you been living for the past quarter century!
Christians are experiencing TRUE persecution from THE LGBTQTIA etc.. mafia and their satanic allies in the media and gov.

Your post comes across as tolerant of what God considers to be an abomination.

Friendship with the world is enmity with GOD.

GOD will not be mocked; Judgement is coming on this world for the wickedness of it.

I am not trying to be judgmental but, share what the scriptures say on the subject.

I encourage you to seek the LORD to find His heart and save yourself from the wrath to soon come.

It's none of my business what other people do in their bedrooms. If that was the case, I would have to unfriend nearly everyone I know, because everyone is is fallen in one way or another. Straight people, too. Married people. EVERYONE. It's in the design. We're born into a body that craves sin.

How can I single out gay people when everyone else is fallen, too?

But it's nice to know we have some perfected people in this group.

We do have a mandate to separate from people, Christian or not, that are walking in sin.

Okay, so I need to quit my job and find some kind of career in the church.
How do I separate from people walking in sin when in fact that is every one of us?
What did Jesus do? He wasn't exactly buddy-buddy with the religious leaders of his day. In fact, the religious leaders of his time viewed him as a disturber of the peace.
And if we are the wise ones that are to lead people to Christ, how can we do that, if we have separted ourselves from the world around us? What good can we do if we merely sit in our golden palaces, pointing out all the wrongs in the world? Can't we do much more good if we are actively trying to change the world?
Maybe if we try to live life a little more like Jesus did, we effect positive change, instead of just talking about it.

That is just foolishness. There is no such thing as gay marriage.


What you fail to understand is Sex is to be in the context of marriage between one man and one woman.

The false narrative is that " Christians" are somehow beating up on gays. That is not true. You say we hold strait people up as the norm? What does that even mean? God cannot, will not, bless homosexuals. God doesn't bless fornication who engage in it of the opposite sex. FYI if one is married in the context as God intended it to be, guess what? The bedroom is undefiled. Don't get mad that God has blessed a marriage between one man and one woman. If you lack self-control and engage in sexual sin, you become a slave to sin. Those who are struggling to Identify with sexual addiction Identify with Jesus, who they are seeking victory over, not with the sexual sin. Your self-righteous argument is unbiblical. No one is condemning. Those who are outside of Salvation are condemned already, As John chapter 3:17-19 states. Jesu was speaking.

there in his quote

if you have hate for the " Church " or organize Christianity due to a past hurt you must forgive. Being called into the life of service to God first, then the world means you must be prepared. Jesus did not engage in homosexuality or any sin to understand what they were struggling with He told them after setting them free or healing them, "GO and SIN no MORE". Leading people to Christ and not having victory but compromising to sin is not being set free. You have become the very thing you attack. Just like the religious leaders.

I can testify I have seen much change all glory to God. The problem with all sin is People love doing it more than seeking God to get out of it.

I think the better question is how to love gay people?

Tell them the truth. That if they do not surrender to the Lord and repent of their sin, they cannot be saved, nor Does God hear them.

Peter said repent it was not hate speech, or unloving 3000 were saved. Paul said to repent; it was not hate speech or loving.

Jesus said Repent it was not hate speech or unloving.

start a new thread! that's a different subject.

Actually no, it's not in the design, we weren't supposed to suffer death. We lived in paradise until man sinned against God. We may crave sin before we are saved, but not after. We are a new creature, we are not the same as before we are saved. Jesus blood covers our sin if we do slip and fall. That's not true of people outside the church they are lost sinners. Inside the church are forgiven saints. There is a difference.




Homosexuality is a sin, an abomination because it's a sin against one's own body. That's what the Bible says. If you truly love a person, you would tell them the truth instead of turning your anger on brothers and sister in Christ who speak the truth.

There are parts of the Bible to be taken literally, and others aren't, as students of the Word we need to learn the difference. The OT was written in different parts to the Jews and don't apply to us today. But sexual sin does, and God hasn't changed His mind on that.


But if you care about their souls, you would. And I'm sure you do. So we need to speak the truth in love.



They are in bondage to sin and they need to be delivered.



Yes, trans people are also confused and in bondage. We have to always remember we have the Answer. There was a song in the 70s that use to say "Jesus is the Answer for the World Today". It's more true now than ever before.

This is a line I hear all the time, "the marriage bed is undefiled", as if the marriage bed CANNOT be defiled. Sure it can. When ANY couple commits perverse acts, they are against God. Gay people don't have a stranglehold on perversion. Straight single people have not cornered the market on perversion. For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. ALL people need to ask God for forgiveness for the horrible things we have done.

“Marriage is to be held in honor among all, and the marriage bed is to be undefiled; for fornicators and adulterers God will judge” . The Greek word translated “undefiled” is only used in this exact form four times in the New Testament, and it means “uncontaminated” or “set apart.”

Any sex outside marriage between a man and a woman, God will judge. Splitting hairs doesn't help. If you care about the soul of a gay person, you tell them the truth about their sin. The same as if a couple was living together without marriage, or sleeping around on their spouse. But marriage is between a man and a woman in the eyes of God.

The point is, What God Has Joined or approved, HE approves, and what HE will not, HE will not.

Homosexuality is a perversion, and most engaged in this sexual preference were:

1. abused as a child
2. addicted to porn
3. suffering from mental illness
4. have an identity crisis.

The main reason is sin.


No one has said those who are not homosexual can SIN. You think that and try to justify homosexuality by pointing out the sin of those who are not bound by homosexuality. That is a false narrative. Yes, a married couple can do perverted acts, yet most married people do not put their sexual acts out in public with children and the world Unless they are perverted.

Homosexuals do have a stronghold, as do drug-addicted drunkards, and many others who are bound by sin. No one is saying we or I have not sinned or do not need God.
The LGBTQ movement was created out of perversion, sin, and the devil himself. The only time there is ever an issue with self-professing " Christian " pointing out the destructive sin, preys on children, and causes more suicides due to the abuse within the LGBTQ mindset is a pandemic in itself.

Jesus came to set all free from all sin. The Love of god is never at the expense of His Holiness. They must repent and turn from their sin as all who come to Christ must do. Not identify with a sexual preference but with Christ. There is no such thing as gay chritians.


Jesus is setting free many homosexuals who are living free from the abuse within the LGBTQ control. They bully, hate, and control you. Most people who have come out of Homosexuality said it is those of the LGBTQ who attacked them for their wanting to come out. And tuned on them with violence, bullying, and stocking. That not love that demonic.

Hi @ThereRoseaLamb,

You know I have the utmost respect for you, so I'm not saying this to argue at all -- it's just something I've always pondered, growing up in the church.

I am not in any way saying that homosexuality is justified -- not at all. As Christians, we all know homosexuality is wrong. But I know what I've grown up seeing is a lot of straight, married Christians condemning others who are "obviously" sinning -- openly gay, straight and living together, etc. But the thing I've always wondered, and I think this might be part of what @lonelysummer is getting at, is if straight, married Christians have a right to judge the sexual sins of others, who has the right to stand up to THEM about their own sexual sins?

I have known at least two Christian women who tearfully told me that their husbands preferred oral and anal sex to what we would call normal sex. And since they only preferred women, they considered themselves 100% straight and not doing anything wrong -- all while freely condemning homosexuals and others in outward sexual sin.

But who would be able to step in and correct them? Especially because these women were much too embarrassed to go to their (male) pastor or anyone else. In one case, it was to the point where the husband would just force her, and she was ashamed and terrified to tell anyone. She was sobbing so hard she couldn't talk as she was trying to relate this to me, and I cried right along with her. We both knew, in the churches we were in, she would never be allowed to leave him -- and she certainly wouldn't want to tell anyone why.

What it boiled down to is that these wives were being pressured and/or forced to participate in acts with their husbands that they did not want to do. I realize there would be debate about oral, but I would think Christians would definitely agree that sodomy against anyone, let alone a wife, is wrong.

I honestly think issues like this are a lot more common than anyone in the church is willing to admit.

Likewise, many of the men (including pastors and elders) in the churches I attended confessed to porn addictions, and they weren't having much victory. So they could point out the sins of a homosexual one minute to save that person's soul, while going home and having to hide what they were watching on their computers every night from their wives. How many married Christians are fantasizing about another man or woman during their private time with their spouse?

And won't God judge these things too?

On the outside, these were respected Christian couples, well-known in their churches and community. But their private lives told a much different story.

Another young man, a new Christian, was trying to get away from the sexual sins of his past, and he asked me (online) if God would be ok with him and his wife experimenting with "toys" as a way to help him satisfy his cravings and get over them.

I told him I was raised in a church that believed this was wrong, but I strongly advised him to talk to his own pastor and study what the Bible says for himself.

I don't want to speak for @lonelysummer, but I think I understand where he's coming from. From the time I was a teen, one of my biggest questions became, "What's the difference between between confronting someone in order to save their soul and confronting a self-proclaimed Christian (because only God knows if they truly are) who is repeatedly guilty of habitual sin?"

And why do the ones with the secret sins get away with pointing their fingers at the ones who's sins are outward? The only difference is, one is observable, and the other is not. It's a lot like a young woman who is pregnant out of wedlock -- much is said to condemn and correct her, but usually not so much about the man who is the other part of the equation. It's just that her sin is much more noticeable.

I can admit I might be a bit jaded though, as I grew up watching people claim to be so close to God that they could apparently somehow point out everyone else's sins without anyone else knowing about, or no one was brave enough, to confront them about their own.

Again, I'm not meaning this as an argument at all. And I'm certainly not trying to defend homosexuality.

But the points that were brought up in these posts are something I think and pray about quite often.