Pastor Steven Anderson Defends His Anti-Homosexual Beliefs

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I don't recognize him as anyone with any spiritual authority. There are a lot of reasons, but believe it or not it's his KJV onlyism that disqualifies him as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, probably a waste of time watching the video.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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#83
There are some wicked people who have nothing but time on their hands to attack those who died in hope that their children would live in a free country. Likewise there's probably one out of a thousand preachers who will stand for the rights that God gave to us. This is one of those preachers. He wanted others to learn from his ordeal . Men like those above couldn't give a damn about the blood out forefathers shed.

Failure to Obey

Unfortunately, many pastors teach that you must love EVERYONE and must Obey EVERYONE who claims authority.
This is them from the pulpit trying to explain Romans 13:


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PS: Only speaking of the trolls who mock that, not everybody by any means.

Can you imagine some troll telling the parents of dead children who were killed by drunk drivers that their children are a side note we won't discuss. What they REALLY need to do is to extend special compassion to the ones who killed their children and set up special programs for them. If the parents don't, then they will be ostracized, criticized and defamed publicly.
What would you say to those trolls?

The difference is that the drunk drivers typically did not intend to hurt the children, while the neighborhood homos aren't drunk and many continue to harm scores of children.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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#84
I will take your word at this.
He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.

Proverbs 18:13

He would not so much as listen to my posts.
He provided the short Fakebook clip and still doesn't know what the guy even said.
I am really disappointed with you guys.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I mean I did watch the link you provided, he said he wanted to be crystal clear that he believes homosexuals should be executed.

Maybe he ALSO believes pedophiles should be executed as well, but he unequivocally said he believes homosexuals should be executed. He gave the Leviticus passage as his justification.

And I'm sorry, but that video of him screaming at his congregants that he is a man of God and if they didn't like what he says to GET OUT! That after tossing a new guy for asking for prayer.

Inexcusably awful behavior from any Christian, much less a Pastor.

Where is there any grace or love in his heart?

He explained in the multiple interviews that he said in a righteous society, the government is the one to carry out capital punishment, not the churches.
You must have missed that important point since you listened.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I would suggest that if a church has an outreach to homosexuals, to addicts, to others that may be of harm to children that that should be separate from regular church services. A weekly meeting, possibly at someones home so those who are truly interested can ask questions and learn.

Perhaps you and whoever else you ladies can get a conference call together and tell him to do that. I'm sure that he would be at least as interested as I am in your opinions.
This kind of church would perhaps be more suitable to your liking?
 

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He explained in the multiple interviews that he said in a righteous society, the government is the one to carry out capital punishment, not the churches.
You must have missed that important point since you listened.
Umm. Not seeing how that makes his desire that all homosexuals be executed any better.

Whether it’s the Church or State, he still wants homosexuals executed.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Umm. Not seeing how that makes his desire that all homosexuals be executed any better.

Whether it’s the Church or State, he still wants homosexuals executed.

You can't see the difference between capital punishment for capital offenses differs from what false railing accusations have been made by members of this thread that he is inciting Christians to go out and kill them??
Are you still trolling me?
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Interview with Anderson #3

Some of you ran with the false accusation that was originally intended to deceive and blow an already volatile situation out of proper context. I already addressed that with Smoke. Regardless, you won't agree, but at least be honest and clear that he never suggested murder.
 

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You can't see the difference between capital punishment for capital offenses differs from what false railing accusations have been made by members of this thread that he is inciting Christians to go out and kill them??
Are you still trolling me?
No. I’m confused. Do you believe homosexuals should be executed by the state?
 

HealthAndHappiness

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No. I’m confused. Do you believe homosexuals should be executed by the state?
Look friend,

The history of America from the early colonies up until fairly recently considered sodomy a crime.
If I post a brief, easy to listen to synopsis, would you like to listen to it?
I had nothing to do with the Bible sodomy laws or the American sodomy laws.
My experience and background is what it's been having to put up with those criminals all my life.
I didn't believe my Dad at first because I was a worldly minded child raised by the corruption education system 8 hours/ day 5 days a week throughout my entire youth until adulthood. I don't expect you Magenta, and the rest of the thread to agree with my Dad.

He warned me about the queers before I knew what they were into. He gave me a list of reprehensible attributes that they were typically like. He was an unbeliever, but funny enough, his description was the same as the Bible.
On the other hand, my Mom's reprobate second husband who nearly blew my head off with a 12 gauge and tried to get me to fall off of a building as a boy, punished me for so much as making fun of Rosey Grier's name, calling him Rosey Queer.
We boys played football on the playground and called it Smear the Queer. That was my generation. That was West Virginia culture.
The second husband did absolutely nothing to the neighborhood queer that nearly killed the young boy, splitting his head on a gas meter. How can you make those ring like a church bell? Swing a 3 pound sledge as hard as you can?
No, just ask the boy.
Of course the queer should not be punished. You guys need to have a love session and make him feel welcome.
We love them more than Christ, because they just need a good gathering of their own like that sassy gal described. I think this thread should follow her leadership. She can call on Pastor Bruxy Cavey for ideas on how to get a Rainbow Cub started and insist like "Michael the Archangel" that Pastor Anderson adopt the program.

I not like Paul, but I think I'm starting to understand a little bit of why Paul was sarcastic with the first letter to Corinth..
 

HealthAndHappiness

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There are a plethora of things/sins God calls an abomination.
Does this "pastor' want to kill them all, or just homosexuals?
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Unclean things (Lev. 7:21)
Customs of pagans (Lev. 18:30)
Idols (2 Chr. 15:8; 1 Pet. 4:3)
Sins of men (Ps. 14:1; 53:1)
Cheating (Mic. 6:10)
Lost souls (Rev. 21:8)
A forward man (perverse; one who turns aside) (Pro. 3:32; 11:20)
A proud look (Pro. 6:16-17)
A lying tongue (Pro. 6:17; 12:22)
Hands that shed innocent blood (Pro. 6:17)
A wicked scheming heart (Pro. 6:18)
Feet that are quick to sin (Pro. 6:18)
A false witness that speaks lies (Pro. 6:19)
A sower of discord (Pro. 6:19)
Wickedness (Pro. 8:7)
A false balance or scale (Pro. 11:1)
Sacrifices of the wicked (Pro. 15:8; 21:27)
The way of the wicked (Pro. 15:9)
The thoughts of the wicked (Pro. 15:26)
The proud of heart (Pro. 16:5)
Justifying the wicked (Pro. 17:15)
Condemning the just (Pro. 17:15)
Divers, dishonest weights (Pro. 20:10, 23)
Divers, dishonest measures (Pro. 20:10)
Refusing to hear the law (Pro. 28:9)
Prayers of the rebel (Pro. 28:9)
Eating flesh of peace offerings on the 3rd day (Lev. 7:18)
Some same sex acts (Lev. 18:22; 20:13; Dt. 23:18)
Taking ornaments from idols when being destroyed (Dt. 7:25-26)
Any Idolatrous practices (Dt. 12:31; 13:14; 17:4; 18:9; 20:18; 29:17)
Offering an imperfect animal to God as a sacrifice (Dt. 17:1)
Any traffic with demons (Dt. 18:7-12)
Wearing clothes of the opposite sex (Dt. 22:5)
Bringing the hire of a harlot or sodomite into God's house (Dt. 23:18)
Re-marriage of former companions (Dt. 24:1-4)
Cheating others (Dt. 25:13-16)
Making images/idols (Dt. 27:15)
Idols of Ammon (1 Ki. 11:5)
Idols of Moab (1 Ki. 11:7; 2 Ki. 11:13)
Idols of Zidon (2 Ki. 23:13)
Incense offered by hypocrites (Isa. 1:13)
Eating unclean things (Isa. 66:17)
Offering human sacrifices (Jer. 32:35)
Robbery (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Murder (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Adultery (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Oppression of others, particularly the poor or vulnerable (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Violence (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Breaking vows (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Lending with interest to a brother (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Lying with a menstruous woman (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Hardness of heart (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Injustice (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Worship of anti-Christ (Dan. 11:31; 12:11; Mt. 24:15; 2 Th. 2:4; Rev. 13)
Incest (Lev. 19: 6-30)
Things highly esteemed by man (Lk. 16:15)
Many other sins of the nations (Lev. 18: 26-29; Dt. 18: 9-12; 20:18; 29:17; 1 Ki. 14:24; 21:2, 11;
1 Ki. 23:24; 2 Chr. 28:3; 33:2; 34:33; 36:14; Ezek. 7: 3-20; 8: 6-17; 16: 2-58; 20: 4-30; Rev. 17: 4-5)
Many of these are abolished under the carnal ordinances clause.
I agree with the Bible because the law of the Lord is perfect. I have no expectations that the state of US governments will ever readopt them. Many of these used to be considered crimes. They were on the books.
 

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Perhaps you and whoever else you ladies can get a conference call together and tell him to do that. I'm sure that he would be at least as interested as I am in your opinions.
Straight out the gate, I don't care about Anderson or his opinions. I'm not going to watch any video you post, so I will save you the time and effort. 2000 red x's aren't going to stop me from calling this guy what he is, a false preacher.

Now let's get to the meat of this. Do you believe a woman should not be allowed to say amen in a service?! I warn you, there are female pastors here, I am not one of them. But do you think a woman should not be allowed to say amen or praise the Lord in a service?

Do you think it is wrong for a woman to have a male doctor? Please show in Scripture where that is stated. Is it ok for a male to have a female doctor? Why or why not? Anderson does understand that there are female doctors that are lesbians and gay doctors and nurses right?!


Do you believe women who are on the pill are whores and are loose women morally? Do you know that women have to go on the pill for health reasons? Each and everything I posted here is not hearsay, this is from the horses mouth.


Do you believe women should not work outside the home?That a womans only duty in life is to have a husband, children and keep a house?!

I believe if you want to give me red x's it's only fair that you defend his ideals. Now this is only the light stuff that Anderson "preaches". So I'll let you answer these few. Then we can start on the harder stuff.
 

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Of course the queer should not be punished. You guys need to have a love session and make him feel welcome.
We love them more than Christ, because they just need a good gathering of their own like that sassy gal described.
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I don't know what age group I'm talking to here, but I am no gal. You will not put words in my mouth that I did not say. I did not say welcome homosexuals and make them feel comfortable. That person has a soul, whether you hate them or not. Your job is to tell them they need the Lord.

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.


And such WERE some of you BUT, God can redeem a person from the bondage of homosexuality. There are people who have done just that and are now preaching the Gospel and married with children. Not by accepting them as they are, but by telling them of God's redeeming grace and mercy and that sin is death. The Word here is clear. No one needs Andersons take on it, nor yours. The Bible says if you hate a person, you are guilty of murder. I by no means accept homosexuality, marriage is between a man and a woman, period. But Christ died on the cross for their sins as much as yours. And such were some of you : but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. And yes, that's KJV !! Thank God for His unending mercy and grace!!
 

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Yeah, probably a waste of time watching the video.
Trust me, his videos aren't worth watching. Of women he says they are not allowed to say "amen" in church because she is expressing an opinion and that is sin. Further, women should not say how money is spent in the church or have any say in the direction of the church. In the home women are to obey, even if the husband is unsaved. Women shouldn't vote and because they do we have abortion. He says women shouldn't run for office, it's sin. And also, daycare is a sin. At this point I'm wondering what he doesn't think is a sin when it comes to women. This guy is off the reservation.
 

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I don't know what age group I'm talking to here, but I am no gal. You will not put words in my mouth that I did not say. I did not say welcome homosexuals and make them feel comfortable. That person has a soul, whether you hate them or not. Your job is to tell them they need the Lord.

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

And such WERE some of you BUT, God can redeem a person from the bondage of homosexuality. There are people who have done just that and are now preaching the Gospel and married with children. Not by accepting them as they are, but by telling them of God's redeeming grace and mercy and that sin is death. The Word here is clear. No one needs Andersons take on it, nor yours. The Bible says if you hate a person, you are guilty of murder. I by no means accept homosexuality, marriage is between a man and a woman, period. But Christ died on the cross for their sins as much as yours. And such were some of you : but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. And yes, that's KJV !! Thank God for His unending mercy and grace!!
Like you said, homosexuals, like any other type of sinner, can be saved if they repent and turn to Jesus Christ.

Do not even waste your time with those who would seek to defend Anderson. The guy is not saved himself, and those who defend him more than likely are not saved either. There is simply no way that anybody who is indwelt by the Spirit of truth could defend any of his many erroneous teachings and his repulsive non-Christlike behavior.
 

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When people talk politics and how to dodge tyrants more than they talk about our salvation and God's word, something is amiss.
 

seekingthemindofChrist

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When people talk politics and how to dodge tyrants more than they talk about our salvation and God's word, something is amiss.
I agree, and I think that I know exactly what that "something" is.

As Christians, we are supposed to be strangers and pilgrims who are merely sojourning here while we await the appearing of God's kingdom. So many people today, and this includes many who profess to know Christ, are caught up in the affairs of this world, and they are therefore overly concerned with politicians and tyrants because they are more concerned about possibly losing their personal liberties than they are for the task at hand. Namely, to seek and to save that which is lost by the preaching of the gospel.

It seems to me that the gospel advanced in the book of Acts while the world was under the dominating rule of Rome or the "fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly" which "had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it" (Daniel 7:7), so we are without excuse if we cannot see the same type of results in our day and age.
 

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I don't know what age group I'm talking to here, but I am no gal.


I called you a lady. I was wrong.
Sorry I will not make that mistake again.
Perhaps your chosen pronoun is he/him or they/ them?


The only thing I have been hearing from you since you decided to troll me on this thread is this.


Who exactly has tried to lead the out of the closet homosexuals on the forum to the Lord??
It has not been you, because I have paid attention.
You are talking to him sir.


Have a great life.

Bye!
 

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I agree, and I think that I know exactly what that "something" is.

As Christians, we are supposed to be strangers and pilgrims who are merely sojourning here while we await the appearing of God's kingdom. So many people today, and this includes many who profess to know Christ, are caught up in the affairs of this world, and they are therefore overly concerned with politicians and tyrants because they are more concerned about possibly losing their personal liberties than they are for the task at hand. Namely, to seek and to save that which is lost by the preaching of the gospel.

It seems to me that the gospel advanced in the book of Acts while the world was under the dominating rule of Rome or the "fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly" which "had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it" (Daniel 7:7), so we are without excuse if we cannot see the same type of results in our day and age.

You have been here for little more than 2 weeks and you are already trolling.
The post just above applies to you as well. I hope you get saved some day.

have a good life.
Bye!