Has anyone found secret messages in the bible?

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NTNT58

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Probably because you are being a jerk about it.... just a guess.
She is not a troll.... you? Jury's still out.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Where in my original post was I being rude??? This was her response to my original post, I didn't even say anything else besides the post itself. I was not rude to ANYONE except rude people. She is ABSOLUTELY a troll... I presented an argument backed by mathematical facts, and she... told me to shut up, how rude and childish are you people!
 

TheDivineWatermark

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sin+forgiven 70*7 mentions
The way you have it written here ^ , I thought you meant (the words) "sin + forgiven" 70x7 mentions... but here's what I found when typing in "sin forgiven" in the kjv search box - https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=sin+forgiven&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1


... the results (shown at link) say, ' "sin" AND "forgiven" occurs 22 times in 10 verses in the KJV. '




Perhaps you can supply a brief explanation (without a link)... just a few words explaining why you think this "search" has come up with a differing number. Thanks. = )
 

oyster67

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oyster67 said:
Quite to the contrary. The guy finds elves and fairies behind every tree.

Name one thing he's wrong about...
Nothing at all. Quite to the contrary. There are elves and fairies behind every tree. :giggle:
 

TheDivineWatermark

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The way you have it written here ^ , I thought you meant (the words) "sin + forgiven" 70x7 mentions... but here's what I found when typing in "sin forgiven" in the kjv search box - https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=sin+forgiven&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1
... the results (shown at link) say, ' "sin" AND "forgiven" occurs 22 times in 10 verses in the KJV. '
Perhaps you can supply a brief explanation (without a link)... just a few words explaining why you think this "search" has come up with a differing number. Thanks. = )
NVM , I think I get it now... but the way you have it written "sin+forgiven" is usually how it's written when one has conducted a search using those words TOGETHER. (That's why I was confused. lol)


What you meant was "sin" and "forgiven" (separately) when added together, comes to "490" mentions all together (70x7=490):

-- https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=sin&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1 ("sin" - 448 times)

[and]

-- https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=forgiven&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1 ("forgiven" - 42 times)



448 + 42 = 490 (70 x 7)
 

NTNT58

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#86
The way you have it written here ^ , I thought you meant (the words) "sin + forgiven" 70x7 mentions... but here's what I found when typing in "sin forgiven" in the kjv search box - https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=sin+forgiven&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1


... the results (shown at link) say, ' "sin" AND "forgiven" occurs 22 times in 10 verses in the KJV. '




Perhaps you can supply a brief explanation (without a link)... just a few words explaining why you think this "search" has come up with a differing number. Thanks. = )
It looks like your search engine was looking for the 2 words together in one verse. There are a lot more than 22 times in the bible those 2 words are mentioned, 490 times to be exact.
 

NTNT58

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oyster67 said:
Quite to the contrary. The guy finds elves and fairies behind every tree.



Nothing at all. Quite to the contrary. There are elves and fairies behind every tree. :giggle:
So you're just trolling... you're making claims you can't back up and saying vain words.

Mathew 12:36 - But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. 37 For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.”
 

oyster67

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So you're just trolling... you're making claims you can't back up and saying vain words.

Mathew 12:36 - But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. 37 For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.”
I like grapes. :)
 

NTNT58

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Already done. The proof is the nonsense spoken in the op video.
So in other words... you have no argument. You have no proof. There is not a single thing he said that you can rebuke, or specify how he's wrong. All you can do is issue empty, blanket statements like "nonsense".
 

Dino246

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#93
Look up definition of divination. I'm using bible text, not supernatural means.
You’re using one translation. Again, if the ‘code’ doesn’t exist in the original languages, it’s not there at all.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Already done. The proof is that scripture is the word of God to His people, not a secret code to be cifered by secret code crakers with secret knowledge.
 

NTNT58

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You, a newcomer, have no business saying such things.
She is absolutely a troll, and you are defending trolls. I have presented a valid argument backed by facts, and instead of debunking the facts, the trolls spew out insults and baseless statements. That is literally the definition of a troll.
 

NTNT58

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#96
You’re using one translation. Again, if the ‘code’ doesn’t exist in the original languages, it’s not there at all.
Again, we've been over this... who are you to tell God where he can or can't put his divine signature? If this was only in original language, then it wouldn't be nearly as significant because a highly talented linguist could encode all kinds of messages into the original, but ONLY GOD can make a FUTURE translation from a foreign language not existing at the time filled with these messages.
 

NTNT58

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#97
Already done. The proof is that scripture is the word of God to His people, not a secret code to be cifered by secret code crakers with secret knowledge.
Which scripture??? There are DOZENS of different bible version and hundreds of thousands of manuscripts that contradict each other! Sure most of them agree on basics (not all, but most), but how would you know which one is the word of God because they can't all be.

There is no secret knowledge involved here, you are using logical fallacies to make it look like numerology or Gnosticism when it isn't.
 

Magenta

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I found a pearl hidden in a field.
The "man" in both Matt13:44 and Matt13:45-46 is Jesus = ) (...not us).
[I don't know whether that's what "Magenta" was alluding to or not, in her post #74. :) ]

Matthew 13:44
I've been working on this one for the past 2 days, but needed a verse for it so, thank you for the inspiration! .:)
 

TheDivineWatermark

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Now I'm wondering if it's just a coincidence/confirmation bias.
As to the OP (title) question, I've found something that is SIMILAR to those pointing out how:



-- the FIRST and the LAST letters of the Bible (in the Hebrew and the Greek) spell (together) "bn" (the Hebrew word meaning "SON"), so that both the FIRST and the LAST must be considered together in order to see it (i.e. both the OT and the NT)...

-- https://biblehub.com/text/genesis/1-1.htm "bə-rê-šîṯ " (first word--first letter)

-- "v" in Greek is our English "n" - https://biblehub.com/text/revelation/22-21.htm (see last word--last letter)








... so what I found was something similar to this ^ , but I'm not prepared to share it here. :D





[IOW, the evidence itself (in that example, for instance) is plain, in the text]
 

NTNT58

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As to the OP (title) question, I've found something that is SIMILAR to those pointing out how:



-- the FIRST and the LAST letters of the Bible (in the Hebrew and the Greek) spell (together) "bn" (the Hebrew word meaning "SON"), so that both the FIRST and the LAST must be considered together in order to see it (i.e. both the OT and the NT)...

-- https://biblehub.com/text/genesis/1-1.htm "bə-rê-šîṯ "

-- "v" in Greek is our English "n" - https://biblehub.com/text/revelation/22-21.htm








... so what I found was something similar to this ^ , but I'm not prepared to share it here. :D





[IOW, the evidence itself (in that example, for instance) is plain, in the text]
What do you mean you're not prepared? Are you afraid the trolls are going to eat you up?:sneaky: