Has anyone found secret messages in the bible?

Hamas is not a government. Neither is the RCC.

Recently I came across this video on Youtube where the guy uses software to count number of occurrences of certain words in the bible and the King James version is just FILLED completely with all kinds of secret messages.

I downloaded the software (King James Pure Bible Search) and went to work... so far I found prophet Muhammad's birth and death year

I looked up all occurrences and variations of the words false, prophet and Ishmaelite. I got 633 occurences in 570 verses.

false|falsely|falsehood
prophet|prophet's|prophets|
ishmaelite|ishmael|ishmael's|ishmaelites

Now I'm wondering if it's just a coincidence/confirmation bias.

The guy's Youtube channel has a lot of other videos with countless other encoded formulas that make it just about impossible to dismiss the whole thing as coincidence or conspiracy.

I don't know about politics in Palestine, but Jesus gave Peter the authority over the other disciples in John 21:17.

In Mathew 16:19 Jesus gave Peter the keys to heaven, which is the type/antitype of Isiah 22 where the posterity of the stewart (Peter) are to inherit the authority of the kingdom, proving papal succession to be legitimate.

Many other verses also prove RCC authority like Peter always being listed first etc.

No, He didn't. He told Peter to "Feed My sheep", not "I give you all authority over the other disciples."

Further, in Matthew 28:18, Jesus said, "All authority in heaven and earth has been given to Me", not "... to you, Peter".

Nope. Not even remotely. You would do well to take some training in how to read and interpret Scripture... and the word is "steward".


That doesn't prove anything about the RCC. You're grasping at straws while walking the plank from a sinking ship.

I look forward to your efforts in defending the KJV. I've been following your posts throughout this thread.

Jesus is said to be separate from sinners and that He is holy, UNDEFILED, and made HIGHER than the heavens. Jesus was harmless. Again, how can Jesus potentially sin?

But Jesus also operated by the Holy Spirit at times

then Jesus could also operate by His own power, as well.

If He sees His Father heal, Jesus can do likewise.

That's not an argument. The Bible is full of types and antitypes, and this is clearly the case.

The government over the nation you are in, regardless of how corrupt they are. If a corrupt government like Hammas commands people to do something ungodly, then by all means you must disobey, otherwise, you must obey everything else they say.

In Mark 12:17 Jesus says - “Give to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and give to God the things that are God's.”

In Mathew 5:41 Jesus says "And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him two." - He is talking about the Roman law where soldiers can pick anybody on the street and force them to carry their gear for up to one mile.

Roman Caesars were extremely corrupt, and evil, took over nations by force, and committed uncountable atrocities, but Jesus still said to Pay taxes and obey their laws.

Jesus gave Peter the authority over the other disciples

I don't know about politics in Palestine, but Jesus gave Peter the authority over the other disciples in John 21:17. In Mathew 16:19 Jesus gave Peter the keys to heaven, which is the type/antitype of Isiah 22 where the posterity of the stewart (Peter) are to inherit the authority of the kingdom, proving papal succession to be legitimate. Many other verses also prove RCC authority like Peter always being listed first etc.

God's Word says He was tempted in ALL things like we are tempted and He had to overcome those temptation and choose to not sin... something Adam failed to do that Jesus got right.

If it were not possible for Jesus to sin during his walk on earth where He laid aside His divine power to become as mere men... the Holy Spirit would not have led Him to the wilderness for the sole purpose of being tempted by the devil.

In Heaven right now God's glory shines thru the face of the Lord and He is literally glowing with God's almighty power.... when He was here on earth we know he was not glowing like that and God's Word said He was made lower than the angels for the suffering of death.

No, that's NOT what Jesus said... He said He does NOTHING except the Father does the work thru Him

That's what I was saying... the Father was doing the works thru Jesus... according to what Jesus tells us.

Do you believe Jesus is God?
Yes, or no?
If yes, then what you are saying is that God can sin.
Perhaps you need to reread and believe 1 John 1:5.

1 John 1:5
“And this is the message we have heard from Him
and announce to you: God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all. “

Apparently you think there is darkness in God, which would contradict 1 John 1:5.
Think. If God could potentially sin, there would have to be sin or darkness within Him in order to potentially sin.
How do you believe 1 John 1:5? The short answer is that you don’t believe it.

You need to reread and believe Hebrews 7:26.

Hebrews 7:26
”For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled,
separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens”

Okay, according to this above verse, Jesus is HOLY, harmless, UNDEFILED, and SEPARATE FROM SINNERS, and made higher than the heavens. So do you believe Jesus is undefiled and holy and separate from sinners? No, you don’t believe that. You believe Jesus was defiled in that He could potentially sin. You really don’t believe Jesus is the spotless Lamb. To you, Jesus has some spot to potentially sin like us. You think Jesus is not separate from sinners in the fact He could sin. Again, can God sin? No! That’s a stupid question. We know God cannot potentially sin under any circumstance. God is good. God is love. God is perfect and holy in all He does.

So what of Hebrews 2, and Hebrews 4?

Hebrews 2:18 says,
’For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.”

Hebrews 4:15 says,
”For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.“

So let me get this straight. You believe Jesus was tempted to do evil. Meaning, that for a split second or so He considered the idea to sin or that He had a desire within Him to do that sin but He simply did not act on His evil impulses. So you are saying Jesus is not separate from sinners and that He is defiled, which would violate Hebrews 7:26. What you are saying is that Jesus has darkness within Him, which would violate Jesus being God according to 1 John 1:5. You are attacking the deity of Jesus Christ, and this is wrong. Imagine facing the Lord one day and telling Him that He could have sinned? The horror you will face at the Judgment for claiming that He could sin is unimaginable in my mind. So how do we deal with Hebrews 2:18, and Hebrews 4:15? Simple. As I said before, these verses are in reference to EXTERNAL temptation ONLY. In our English language we can say somebody tempted us but yet we had no interest in the temptation given. Example: A strange man off the street comes up to Rick and tries to sell him a bottle of raw sewage. Rick politely declines and says, “No thank you.” Later, when Rick goes over to Bob’s house, he tells him this, “Yeah, some guy came up to me and tempted me with a bottle of raw sewage.” Bob replied, “That’s unbelievable.” So was Rick actually tempted internally by this bottle of raw sewage? No. Most definitely not. A person who would read this example would understand that Rick was saying that he was being EXTERNALLY tempted.

See, what you are not doing is you are not looking at the whole counsel of God’s Word on this matter.



And that’s your false assumption with no actual backing of Scripture really saying that.



While Jesus did have a flesh and blood body of a man, Hebrews 7:26 says Jesus was made HIGHER THAN THE HEAVENS.
You also did not address any of the verses I brought forth, either. This is what I would call an unfair discussion. You are just ignoring all the points in Scripture that refute your belief. Unless you deal with them, there is no point in continuing this conversation. You will simply just believe whatever you want to believe despite the verses I have challenged you with that you have not explained.

Yes, you tried to do this with John 5:21 by pointing out John 5:19, but then I turned around and showed you the latter half of the verse that you did not read that refutes your false thinking.




Chapter and verse please.




No. You are not reading and believing that verse correctly. Lets review it again.

John 5:19
“Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”

Okay so the first part of the verse is saying that Jesus can do nothing of Himself but only what He sees the Father do. Meaning, Jesus is not going to do something unless He sees the Father do it. That’s what the first part of this verse says.

The second part of the verse which you really deny and refuse to accept and believe is that Jesus says that whatever things He does (i.e., the Father does), the Son also DOES LIKEWISE. Meaning, the Son also does the same things He sees the Father do. Jesus is not saying that whatever He sees the Father do, the Father will do through Him. No, no. That’s NOT what it says. It says these also forth the Son LIKEWISE!!!!


Likewise is defined as:

In the same way, or:

In like manner.

Sources:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/likewise
https://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/Likewise

So Jesus can do in the same way the same things that the Father does. That’s what John 5:19 says that you have put a blindfold over your eyes so you cannot see what the text says because you simply do not want to see it. You need to address this part.

God's Word says He was tempted in ALL things like we are tempted and He had to overcome those temptation and choose to not sin... something Adam failed to do that Jesus got right.

If it were not possible for Jesus to sin during his walk on earth where He laid aside His divine power to become as mere men... the Holy Spirit would not have led Him to the wilderness for the sole purpose of being tempted by the devil.

In Heaven right now God's glory shines thru the face of the Lord and He is literally glowing with God's almighty power.... when He was here on earth we know he was not glowing like that and God's Word said He was made lower than the angels for the suffering of death.

This does not mean He was not the perfect Son of God, it means He had to become as a normal man in order to walk among men and then suffer death, the literal separation from God for our sins (He said on the Cross... "Father, why have you forsaken me"... so by that we know He was separated from God for out sin as the wages of sin is death)




At times??? The Father did all of those great works by the Holy Spirit thru Jesus... according to Jesus

This is how we know Jesus had faith because He walked in ALL the fruit of the Spirit against such their is no law... God's Word said He had their Spirit without measure and this is why we know He had faith... because He had ALL the fruit of the Spirit functioning in His life.






No, that's NOT what Jesus said... He said He does NOTHING except the Father does the work thru Him





That's what I was saying... the Father was doing the works thru Jesus... according to what Jesus tells us.

Jesus only told Peter to feed his sheep, not anyone else. Only a shepherd feeds sheep, not other sheep,

meaning Jesus has given his authority (keys) to Peter.

Just like in Isiah 22 a king gave the keys to his steward.

I have dozens of verses backing up my argument, that's not grasping at straws.

What do you have other than your rebellious opinions and your feelings of disdain towards the RCC? (feelings, by the way, I share with you). You don't get to dismiss the argument without evidence, and the only thing you refuted is my spelling.

Peter was listed first among disciples (Matt. 10:1-4, Mark 3:16-19, Luke 6:14-16, Acts 1:13).

Peter was the one who generally spoke for the apostles (Matt. 18:21, Mark 8:29, Luke 12:41, John 6:68-69), and he figured in many of the most dramatic scenes (Matt. 14:28-32, 17:24-27; Mark 10:23-28).

On Pentecost it was Peter who first preached to the crowds (Acts 2:14-40), and he worked the first healing in the Church age (Acts 3:6-7).

It is Peter’s faith that will strengthen his brethren (Luke 22:32).

An angel was sent to announce the resurrection to Peter (Mark 16:7), and the risen Christ appeared first to Peter (Luke 24:34).

He headed the meeting that elected Matthias to replace Judas (Acts 1:13-26), and he received the first converts (Acts 2:41).

He inflicted the first punishment (Acts 5:1-11) and excommunicated the first heretic (Acts 8:18-23).

He led the first council in Jerusalem (Acts 15) and announced the first dogmatic decision (Acts 15:7-11).

It was to Peter that the revelation came that Gentiles were to be baptized and accepted as Christians (Acts 10:46-48).

Jesus gave Peter the keys to heaven in Mathew 16:19 because he was the first one to acknowledge him as the Messiah.

After the Resurrection, Jesus appeared to his disciples and asked Peter three times, “Do you love me?” (John 21:15-17). In repentance for his threefold denial, Peter gave a threefold affirmation of love. Then Christ, the Good Shepherd (John 10:11, 14), gave Peter the authority he earlier had promised: “Feed my sheep” (John 21:17). This specifically included the other apostles, since Jesus asked Peter, “Do you love me more than these?” (John 21:15), the word “these” referring to the other apostles who were present (John 21:2).

God's Word says He was tempted in ALL things like we are tempted and He had to overcome those temptation and choose to not sin... something Adam failed to do that Jesus got right.

If it were not possible for Jesus to sin during his walk on earth where He laid aside His divine power to become as mere men... the Holy Spirit would not have led Him to the wilderness for the sole purpose of being tempted by the devil.

At times??? The Father did all of those great works by the Holy Spirit thru Jesus... according to Jesus

No, that's NOT what Jesus said... He said He does NOTHING except the Father does the work thru Him

If yes, then what you are saying is that God can sin.

Apparently you think there is darkness in God, which would contradict 1 John 1:5.

for a split second or so He considered the idea to sin

these verses are in reference to EXTERNAL temptation ONLY.

what you are not doing is you are not looking at the whole counsel of God’s Word on this matter.

And that’s your false assumption with no actual backing of Scripture really saying that.

Hebrews 7:26 says Jesus was made HIGHER THAN THE HEAVENS.

Chapter and verse please.

The second part of the verse which you really deny and refuse to accept and believe is that Jesus says that whatever things He does (i.e., the Father does), the Son also DOES LIKEWISE. Meaning, the Son also does the same things He sees the Father do. Jesus is not saying that whatever He sees the Father do, the Father will do through Him. No, no. That’s NOT what it says. It says these also forth the Son LIKEWISE!!!!

You need to address this part.

You have to read the Bible with your heart and not just with the head.

Isaiah 45:7 says,
”I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”

yes, the Bible is full of types, metaphors etc and you are full of strange and unbiblical ideas

this is not an argument forum. it's for discussion which is why it is called the Bible Discussion Forum

I don't need a history lesson. If you think a person should disobey Hamas, then they should also disobey whatever any government tells them to do if it goes against God. My point all along. Thanks for agreeing with me.

right. Then Peter should have been right there with John on Patmos to make sure he got it right.

I wonder what happened to the gospel of Peter though.

For that matter how dare that Paul get on Peter's case and tell him he was being a hypocrite.