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  1. Ahwatukee

    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    Agreed! Though Satan becomes angry after he and his angels are cast out of heaven, that time period should not be referred to as Satan's wrath, because his being cast out is the result of the sounding of the 7th trumpet, which is God's wrath. Satan is simply angry at that time because he knows...
  2. Ahwatukee

    the ruler to come in Dan 9

    You are correct in that, the "He" in verse 26 is referring to "The Ruler" of the people. However, it speaking about that future antichrist that is to come. In Matt.24:15, Jesus quoted Daniel 9:27 saying, "So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination of desolation,’ described by...
  3. Ahwatukee

    Documentary—7 Pretrib Problems and the Prewrath Rapture

    I totally agree with this. God foreknew and predestined those whom He chose to save before the world began and at that time wrote their names in the book of life. Actually Rev.13:8 is pretty much saying the same thing as Rev.17:8: "And those who dwell on the earth whose names were not written...
  4. Ahwatukee

    Hell

    Satan will not be the superintendent the lake of fire, but will be one of its prisoners. "And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, into which the beast and the false prophet had already been thrown. There they will be tormented day and night forever and...
  5. Ahwatukee

    2000 years and end times connection

    Hello Shc, From the time of Adam to Christ was approximately 4000 years. And from Christ to present about 2000 years, equaling 6000 years. The millennial kingdom will bring it to 7000, seven being the number of God. God's wrath is coming upon this world via the seals, trumpets and bowl...
  6. Ahwatukee

    1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 Vs. Matthew 24:29-31

    Because I can present the scriptures to prove my claim and explain why and also show them the error of their false teachings and why they are false. One of the problems that we have today, is that even when you provide the scriptures and explain it to them, they circumvent it, because they just...
  7. Ahwatukee

    1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 Vs. Matthew 24:29-31

    The great tribulation is indeed the wrath of God. It's God's tribulation, not man's. The use of the word 'tribulation' is not restricted to the tribulation that believers suffer as a result of their faith in Christ. As I said, the seals, trumpets and bowl judgment, which make up God's wrath...
  8. Ahwatukee

    1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 Vs. Matthew 24:29-31

    Hello Evmur, I don't understand why you continue to attempt to correct me on things that I myself have always been in agreement with I and f which I also teach? As I said before and in many posts, Jesus said that believers would have trials and tribulations as result of our faith in Him, which...
  9. Ahwatukee

    1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 Vs. Matthew 24:29-31

    Those that are seen under the altar in heaven at the opening of the 5th seal, are those who will have become saints after the church is gathered and who will have died during the first 3 1/2 years of the seven year period. The reference to them waiting until their fellow servants and brothers...
  10. Ahwatukee

    1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 Vs. Matthew 24:29-31

    This has to do with the church during the church period. In fact, the letters to the seven churches symbolically represent the entire church period, i.e. the "what is now" portion of what John was told to write and which we are still in. This below takes place during the "what must take place...
  11. Ahwatukee

    1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 Vs. Matthew 24:29-31

    Hello Yahshua, You have to keep in mind that the coming wrath of God via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments will be in process during that entire seven years overshadowing the beasts kingdom and all that the false prophet does. In fact, everything that goes on during that time period is a...
  12. Ahwatukee

    1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 Vs. Matthew 24:29-31

    In order to come to a right interpretation, you need to read the details of the related scriptures on this subject. Below is the scripture: "For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ...
  13. Ahwatukee

    1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 Vs. Matthew 24:29-31

    I don't have prove anything other than Christ already satisfied God's wrath on behalf of every believer. And since God's wrath must take place leading up to the Lord's return to the earth, then we the church cannot be exposed to it and will be removed. As I said in the previous post, God's...
  14. Ahwatukee

    1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 Vs. Matthew 24:29-31

    "But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come."
  15. Ahwatukee

    1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 Vs. Matthew 24:29-31

    You are correct! We should all be watching and anticipating the Lord's appearing according to His promise. I like the way that the following parable describes it: "Be dressed for service and keep your lamps burning. Then you will be like servants waiting for their master to return from the...
  16. Ahwatukee

    Documentary—7 Pretrib Problems and the Prewrath Rapture

    Hello, He was speaking to the disciples, who were apart of the body of Christ. The disciples represent the first elders of the church. Therefore, the promise is to them and all who have believed their message up until the Lord appears to gather the entire church, which ends the church period...
  17. Ahwatukee

    1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 Vs. Matthew 24:29-31

    Hello Aaron, The gathering of the church prior to God's wrath was not invented by Darby or anyone else. It is concluded from the word of God. You're just repeating a false teaching that has been going around for many years. The gathering of the church taking place prior to God's wrath, is...
  18. Ahwatukee

    Documentary—7 Pretrib Problems and the Prewrath Rapture

    Hi Nehemiah, You know that I don't agree with that. 'the whole world' would be those whose names were written in the book of life before the world began. This is demonstrated in Revelation by the following scripture: "And all who dwell on the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have...
  19. Ahwatukee

    1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 Vs. Matthew 24:29-31

    Hello again! First of all, I have been studying this information for a very long time and am therefore not speaking off the cuff of my sleeve. I don't post or teach anything that I am not sure of. I am very aware that there are different details regarding the same events in scripture. However...