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  1. Ahwatukee

    Documentary—7 Pretrib Problems and the Prewrath Rapture

    Then it is apparent that you don't understand that it is God who will be responsible for the destruction and fatalities resulting from the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments. God's enemies are not responsible for those. They will be unleashed by the power of God and not mankind. And these will...
  2. Ahwatukee

    Why do Christians believe in a place of torment called Hell?

    Yes, but you also need to bring in the words "tormented day and night" which support aion. Below is the same word: "Then the angel I had seen standing on the sea and on the land lifted up his right hand to heaven. And he swore by Him who lives forever and ever, who created heaven and everything...
  3. Ahwatukee

    Documentary—7 Pretrib Problems and the Prewrath Rapture

    Nehemiah is correct. The church is mentioned 19 times throughout chapters 1 thru 3, then it is never used again. The word changes to hagios translated as Saints. There is a definite distinction being made here, which you are just not picking up on. Revelation 4:1 is where the church is removed...
  4. Ahwatukee

    Homosexual Brother In Law

    Hello again! Yeah, that's why I asked how old he was. Five is a little young for him to understand this situation. Unfortunately because of his age, I would just pray for God's protection, his shielding. I suppose his age regarding this can work both ways, i.e. him not understanding what is...
  5. Ahwatukee

    The rapture and "the tribulation"

    I even stated the same right in the post that you responded to: "There is a difference between the trials and tribulations that believers suffer as a result of their faith vs. God's unprecedented coming wrath, which is what the church is not appointed to suffer.
  6. Ahwatukee

    The rapture and "the tribulation"

    Hello Evmur, Yes, I wholeheartedly agree with that and have always posted this information myself, because people keep comparing the trials and tribulation that the apostles and the first century church went through when talking about God's wrath, as though they were the same thing. The trials...
  7. Ahwatukee

    Homosexual Brother In Law

    The Lord bless you for taking up your cross for Christ and His word. I am truly sorry that your wife is not taking her stand in Christ, but is choosing her family over Him. In these last days, it seems that many Christians are taking more of a worldly view regarding the issue of the same-sex...
  8. Ahwatukee

    Documentary—7 Pretrib Problems and the Prewrath Rapture

    Agreed! And it is the Lamb/Jesus who is the one who is breaking the seals and releasing them, ergo, God's wrath.
  9. Ahwatukee

    The Blessed 1335th day of Daniel

    To Rondonmon: Well, it is easy to respond with "disagree" but what are you disagreeing with? Everything written above is self explanatory. Are you disagreeing with the two 1260 days which make up the seven year period? Or are you disagreeing with the information regarding the 1290 and 1335...
  10. Ahwatukee

    Documentary—7 Pretrib Problems and the Prewrath Rapture

    It is not elementary, but a deeper understanding of God's word. I have lived in the book of Revelation and end-time events ever since the Lord called me. I have not been influence by anyone, as I do all of my own studies, which is why I provide scripture with everything that I post. You...
  11. Ahwatukee

    Documentary—7 Pretrib Problems and the Prewrath Rapture

    Actually, I'm seriously correct, as this all comes from combining scripture. You want reasons, but you reject them when they are given. The church cannot and will not go through the tribulation period, the time of God's wrath. We will never see the antichrist, but will be removed before he is...
  12. Ahwatukee

    Documentary—7 Pretrib Problems and the Prewrath Rapture

    "And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle to fly from the presence of the serpent to her place in the wilderness, where she was nourished for a time, and times, and...
  13. Ahwatukee

    Documentary—7 Pretrib Problems and the Prewrath Rapture

    The tribulation period is the time period when God's wrath will be taking place. The church is not appointed to suffer God's wrath and therefore cannot be on the earth during that time period. It is a time of God's wrath for the wicked not the righteous. However, there will be those believers...
  14. Ahwatukee

    Documentary—7 Pretrib Problems and the Prewrath Rapture

    First of all, the information that they present is the same information that we have already studied and continue to address. The "Pre-Wrath" gathering of the church is based on God's wrath beginning at after the opening of the 6th seal and that because of the statement "the great day of their...
  15. Ahwatukee

    Documentary—7 Pretrib Problems and the Prewrath Rapture

    In addition, the Lord's "Let not your heart be troubled" is echoed by Paul when regarding to the gathering of the living church he said, "Therefore, comfort each other with these words." He also referred to it as "the Blessed Hope." There would certainly be reason to be troubled and there would...
  16. Ahwatukee

    The Blessed 1335th day of Daniel

    Good day, Omegatime, Just fyi, though it may appear that the sheep and the goats are judged by their works they are not. Jesus Himself makes it clear in the parable that the salvation of the “sheep” is not based on their works, but the inheritance was theirs “since the creation of the world”...
  17. Ahwatukee

    New to the chat

    Hello AnthonyB, Greetings and Welcome in Christ. Hope to see you out on the Forum.
  18. Ahwatukee

    The Blessed 1335th day of Daniel

    Blessings to all! There is a seven year period divided into two 1260 day periods (3 1/2 years) that are established in Daniel 9:27, with the setting up of the abomination marking the middle of the seven and which is the fulfillment of that last seven years of the seventy sevens that were...
  19. Ahwatukee

    The Blessed 1335th day of Daniel

    That's not possible! The proof to the world that "The Day of the Lord" has begun, is the apostasy occurring and the man of lawlessness being revealed. 2 Thess. 2:1starts off with "Concerning the coming of our Lord and our being gathered to Him," then in verse 2 Paul refers to "The Day of the...
  20. Ahwatukee

    The most Amazing End time prophecy of them all

    Revelation 12 has not yet taken place, nor has anything taken place that is written beyond the end of chapter 3. There is no multi-layer interpretation to Revelation 12. Everything from Rev.12:1-6 is symbolic representing what is literal. And it has nothing what-so-ever to do with planets or...