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Not having read the 630+ posts before, forgive me if this passage has been used already... (Jer 31:35) Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The...

What I meant was, what works of ours affect our justification (blameless/declared righteous) before God, unless you consider faith a 'work' rather than a gift? (Rom 5:1) Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

I hold to OSAS, but the only works that comes up is His work (not ours). To that there are no IFS, ANDS or BUTS.

I don't understand both these phrases... "OSASed CALLS INTO QUESTION all WORKS and their END intent" " there can only be one reason for THAT and that is ALL THE 'IFS' that OSASed can't abide with " I have no clue what is being said.

They seem to only reinforce what was said in Phil 2:12-13, thx.

I hate being unkind, but on another forum my signature states 'long windedness is a sign of short understanding." Maybe it's just me with a bad case of A.D.D., so maybe you can focus on just one point and elaborate. Here you stated: ' Could you please briefly explain?

It appears John was with Mary... John 19:26-27 (NASB) When Jesus then saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing nearby, He *said to His mother, "Woman, behold, your son!" Then He *said to the disciple, "Behold, your mother!" From that hour the disciple took her into his own...

Could you succinctly paraphrase in one paragraph? Thank you.

They comeback as Rocky II

Yes but those ‘works’ are a result of God first working in us and are thus a fruit of God’s Spirit…similarly… Philippians 2:12-13 ESV [12] Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and...

…when you read the same thread 15 times, yet it only has 4 posts.

Your laptop contracted a trojan due to your extended stay on CC, then your willing to shell out good cash for virus removal, just so you can get back on CC.

Even CCAnonymous no longer can help.

Musthaveadrink,I think you had too many drinks. I'll just ignore your comment that's full of assumptions.

As far as generational curses go, Jesus dealt with that once and for all... (Gal 3:13) Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: (Col 2:13) When you were dead in your transgressions and the...

Correct, it has everything to do with what Christ has done for us... (Rom 8:2) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. (Rom 8:3) For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the...

If I want to be picky? You are the one who first challenged me (post #171) for putting doctrine over love. BTW, that was very loving of you to do that.

By law, I am referring to what is required of man. By grace I am referring to what Jesus has done in our stead...like keep the law to God's satisfaction.