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    3 Reasons Jesus Did Not Go To Hell

    Yes, sounds like you got it. Christ’s Spirit (in Noah) preached salvation to —> the disobedient. The disobedient rejected are now in prison -> Noah was saved through water. Christ’s Spirit (in us) preaches salvation to -> the disobedient. The disobedient still reject and persecute us ->...
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    3 Reasons Jesus Did Not Go To Hell

    I am not sure how this is responding to my post.
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    3 Reasons Jesus Did Not Go To Hell

    Fair enough, it is my belief. But because I believe it I think it’s fair for me to say that he didn’t. I think posting it on a thread for discussion shows I understand not all will accept my position on it. However, I still havent seen anyone actually answer the objections I have laid out...
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    3 Reasons Jesus Did Not Go To Hell

    Ephesians 4 is referring to the incarnation, not Jesus going to hell. Jesus came to earth to give gifts to men and ascended back to heaven to fill all things. The Greek word in the Acts 2 text is “hades” which is “the abode of the dead.” It corresponds to the Hebrew word Sheol. It is not...
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    3 Reasons Jesus Did Not Go To Hell

    Yes. I think James is saying the same Spirit of Christ that raised Jesus from the dead was at work in Noah when he preached to the disobedient in his day, who are now condemned in prison. So, the point is, as Christians we shouldnt be discouraged when we suffer for righteousness sake. We will...
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    3 Reasons Jesus Did Not Go To Hell

    Even if this were the point Peter is making (which I dont even really understand how ”preaching” to people in Hell would be indicative of a greater “victory”), why would this matter to the topic at hand or Christians enduring persecution for righteousness sake?
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    3 Reasons Jesus Did Not Go To Hell

    While it is true, that “technically” Hell is Gehenna or the lake of fire described in Revelation that occurs after the Second Coming, we also see those in torment “in fire” in Jesus story about the rich man and Lazarus. That is why I put (or torment) in parenthesis. I disagree with your...
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    3 Reasons Jesus Did Not Go To Hell

    1 Peter 3:18–22 (ESV): For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, 19 in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, 20 because they formerly did not obey, when...
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    God and Time

    Thanks for the response. I fully understand that these things are weighty and I dont pretend to understand all the ways of God or that we are really even grasping the words we use when we imagine things such as eternity. However, I think it is an important topic to contemplate because I see...
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    God and Time

    Sorry, I am not sure I understand the question.
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    God and Time

    I would define ”time” as a “means of measuring distance through space” or something like that. That distance can include a succession of events. I am not making claims about nothing. I think one of two options must be true: 1. God exists outside time and therefore part of his nature is to...
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    God and Time

    You are right. It does not mean time is an attribute of God. It also doesn’t mean it isn’t. As I see it, if God is eternal, Scripture is posing one of the two claims: 1. God endures through time eternally. 2. God stands outside time It seems you land on #2. So while time may not be part...
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    The Law Is Out Of Date And Will "SOON DISAPPEAR"?

    As Christians, we are not under law but under grace. Our covenant is not based on the Old Covenant. Thus, our “agreement” with God does not consist on living according to the Law. Those who seek to live according to the Law will be judged by the Law. We live under grace. This is not to say...
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    God and Time

    They are all true. That is why I wouldn’t try to simplify who God is by lifting one statement above the others. That was the point I was trying to make.
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    God and Time

    Ok, perhaps I misunderstood, but you quoted my post on ”time being part of His essence” and replied It seemed you were contesting my quote by suggesting “time being part of His essence” was wrongly attributing time to God’s attributes. I just think it’s evident that God’s eternal nature is...
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    God and Time

    Well, I guess what I meant by that is that love is one of God’s attributes…along with omniscience, omnipresence, omnipotence, patience, life, truth, etc. I agree that God is love, but I’m not so sure about the idea that “love is the whole of God “ or ”love is the only concise definition of...
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    God and Time

    I thought the jk was apparent, but if not it was a joke
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    God and Time

    Are you so sure that time is not a divine attribute?
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    God and Time

    I wouldnt disagree that God created time as we experience it. However, that is not to say that God doesn’t exist in time or that time is not part of His essence. I think we would all agree that “love” is an eternal attribute of the Triune God. So, while God created “love” as we know and...
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    God and Time

    I think that text is referring to our status as victors with Christ, and clearly not referring to our physical placement in the moment. I know right…Gary Larsen and his Far Side comics can’t be wrong!