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No, I honestly see what you're saying. You're essentially saying satan was telling the truth when he told Eve she would be as God in verse 5 because God states later in verse 22 that they had become like us. I called satan a liar because nobody can actually be as God and you're defending him. I...

Eve in the garden. "You shall be as God". Before Eve acted, this notion of ability was planted by satan. In her mind she actually believed she was able to be as God. Is this a true statement? 👆 Did satan state/imply Eve could be as God? Yes. Did she believe she could be as God? Yes. It's a...

Gen 3:4“You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” 2 lies. Commentary: Satan goes on to say to Eve that she will not die “for God knows that when you eat of it...

I'm not following you. Please explain.

Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Agreed. It's an essential part of the gospel that most people don't hear, hence the OP.

Listening to a sermon from someone you normally disagree with and still being able to find value is impressive. Inspirational. So thank you!

Interesting 🤔 Were the sons of the prophets sending 50 men to search for Elijah, perhaps after Elisha told them he ascended? Do not send, he said. Yet they urged him until he was "ashamed" (disappointed, so long...) that he said go ahead and send them then... When they returned he said, told you...

We knew what you meant 😊👍

Yep, heard it from a messianic Jewish fella on YouTube. Since then I have a couple hundred hours in the study, it checks out 😂 If you're interested in this sort of thing google the Jewish word agunah: the chained woman, and follow that rabbit trail. Pretty sad this still happens today...

Ya we chatted a bit, I don't mind. Seems like you're actually trying to figure things out. I am too...

True dat! God's perfection, man's responsibility of perfection, man's inability to comply and man's need for a savior is scripture and the gospel in a nutshell. Discussing soteriology with an Arminian or Pelagian (of any kind) is sort of like discussing the deity of Christ with a JW or Muslim...

Ok I think I get it :) Give this a read, or listen, see if it answers your question. https://www.gty.org/library/sermons-library/45-09/the-wrath-of-god

Can you be more specific, what do you mean by "punishment"?

Copied from: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%203%3A21-31&version=NLT Christ Took Our Punishment 21 But now God has shown us a way to be made right with him without keeping the requirements of the law, as was promised in the writings of Moses[a] and the prophets long ago. 22...

@XavierJesusLovesIndia is a Thomist/Augustinian Catholic if I’m not mistaken. Been reading about Thomas Aquinas for days, apparently an amazing fella. Made note of a book written by Joseph Wawrykow called Gods grace and human action, in which Joseph chronicles the evolution of Aquinas’...

@pablocito in response to both your posts #34 & #35 The late great Wesley made sinless perfectionism popular, which seems to be exactly what you're advocating here. I don't agree with Wesley on this topic but it may benefit you to wander down this trail. Far greater men like Wesley, Arminius...

I'm not going anywhere, feel free to research any unfamiliar terms and get back to me whenever. 👍

Have you heard of Mary Schweitzer? Apparently she and others repeatedly found soft tissue in “dinosaur bones”. Interesting rabbit hole to traverse.

That was uncalled for but I forgive you. Forgive them father, they know not what they do 🙏