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You have not brought one verse that teaches pre faith justification. And your mind is so darkened, you can’t even properly interpret simple sentences. I suggest you study some basic grammar, learn about purpose clauses, use of the subjunctive, etc.

a. Wherefore the Law was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ THAT WE MIGHT BE justified by faith. Galatians 3:24. “THAT”. There’s the hina of purpose again. The law served as a schoolmaster to bring us to Christ SO THAT (the purpose and intended end being) we might be (SUBJUNCTIVE- ALSO...

Since you are too ascared to interact with scriptures, I will do it for you. When Moses lifted up the bronze serpent in the wilderness, was that enough or did they have to “look and live”? They had to look and live. Did the act of looking “save” them, or did the Power of God save all who...

I asked you about one verse, and you will not “elaborate” on it because you can’t. It doesn’t fit into your “system”. And you call me unteachable. :ROFL:

Amen.

I agree with everything you just said except one point. I believe that Jesus’ sacrifice was predestined from eternity, because I believe that It is part of God’s eternal purpose, and because I believe that God’s knowledge is perfect, ie He does not learn, therefore He must have always known...

God given faith believes SO THAT the believer may be justified by the faith of Christ. Gal 2:16.

What does “we believe that we might be justified by the faith of Christ” mean? What did Paul say that he and his readers did in Gal 2:16? What was the result of their belief in Gal 2:16? I think this is the third time I asked you

If we are justified before we are born, might as well say that we were justified from eternity, seeing Jesus is the Lamb slain from the foundation…

False dichotomy. We are not discussing the basis or grounds of justification, we are discussing the when of justification. You are not even trying to speak to what I say, but are using a “red herring”.

Number one. Galatians 2:16 says Paul believed so that HE MIGHT BE justified Number two. Romans 5;9 says nothing about justification before birth. Number three. For about the tenth time, I believe that justification is based on the blood of Christ. Think of it this way. Today I was praying for...

1. Even we have believed that we might be justified by faith of Christ. a. WE- subject- who performs the action. b. believed- Verb- c. Christ Jesus object of faith (direct object) d. Justification based on Christ and His finished work. 2. that (hina of purpose), 2443 hína (a subordinating...

Galatians 2:16. (Partial Quote) Even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that ('ina of purpose) we might be justified by the faith of Chris We have believed that we might be justified. Clear as a cloudless day. a. What does the verse say that Paul and his hearers did? b. What was the stated...

Galatians 2:16. a. What does the verse say that Paul and his hearers did? b. What was the stated purpose or result for doing this? If you honestly and without bias answer these two questions, it will clear things up.

Pronounced hina of purpose, not Gina. I hate when my phone wrongly corrects me. ;)

Galatians 2:16. …Even we have believed in Jesus Christ, THAT We might be justified by the faith of Christ….partial quote The word “”that” is ina in Greek, and it is a ina (pronounced Gina) of PURPOSE. We have believed so that (for the purpose or result of) being justified by faith of Christ...

But to him who does not work but believes on Him who (dikaioo) declares as righteous the ungodly, his faith (the one believing) is counted (logizomai) (imputed) as righteousness. (Dikaiosune). Dikaiosune (righteousness) is a substantive form of the verb dikaioo (declare righteous). God counts...

John Gill was wrong. Justification is defined as to render, regard, declare as righteous, which is the same thing as having your faith COUNTED as RIGhTEOUSNESS! Righteousness is dikaiosune, which is the substantive (noun) form of dikaioo, which is Greek for render or declare righteous, (...

I see that John Gill did teach justification before birth, but Paul did not. The God who justifies the ungodly counts (credits, reckons) the faith of those who believe for righteousness. Romans 4:5. Couldn’t be any clearer. That is justification. Gill is wrong.

Can you give me ONE citation of a Bible teacher from anytime in history that interpreted Paul to mean justification before birth in Romans 4:5 or anywhere else. No John Gill did not teach justification before birth. (Note. Keep in mind that Election is not the same as justification. Not...