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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    I gave you the lexicon definition. It means to pronounce or declare righteous, which is the same thing as imputing righteousness or counting or reckoning righteousness for faith. (Romans 4:5). Our faith does not justify. The one we believe justifies us freely based entirely on the work of...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    God is the one who justifies the ungodly. "Him that justifies the ungodly" is a participial phrase describing God. It does not mean that God justifies before faith, it just means that God is the one that justifies the ungodly. Read carefully. So Him the justifies the ungodly is a participle...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    How do you define justification?
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Justification and the act of God counting us righteous (by faith) IS THE SAME THING.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    That is a false dichotomy. Justification is based on Christ’s work alone. Faith, which is not a work and is a gift of God is the means by which God justifies us.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Justification is based solely on the death of Christ. Salvation is based on the eternal purpose of God, the forekowledge and predestination of God, the death, resurrection, and High Priestly work of Christ. The state and standing of salvation which includes justification is given by God to...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    a. Justification equals imputed righteousness b. Faith is counted for righteousness (imputed righteousness) equals justified through faith.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Justification before faith. I see it nowhere in scripture. Justification based on what Christ has done. Yes. Justication through faith and justification based on Christ’s work are not mutually exclusive.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Justification and imputed righteousness ( having faith counted for righteousness) is the same thing.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Are you saying you believe in two justifications? And this verse does not say anything about the temporal aspect of justification.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    What do you think justified by faith or through faith means?
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    You’re still conflating justification and predestination. Just give me one verse where it specifically says that we were justified before we were born. Give me the clearest and best citation.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    If we were justified before we were born, how then were we "children of wrath" before we were saved? (Ephesians 2:3) The primary cause which justifies a person before God is Christ's Work, but faith is the instrument that God uses to apply the benefits of Christ's work to those who believe...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    No. Jesus was the propitiation (which satisfies the justice of God and that which removes what is standing in the way) for our sins, but justification happens when we believe. RIGHTEOUSNESS is not imputed until we believe. (Romans 4:23-25)
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    See Galatians 3:24
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    You are confusing foreknowledge and predestination with justification.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    The Call precedes justification. Romans 8:28-30. Foreknown, predestined, called, justified, glorified. The call produces Faith and faith, (which is a gift of God), results in justification (as a secondary, not primary cause or instrument).
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    God justifies the Elect through faith.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Justification is the imputation of righteousness to a sinner, right? Romans 4 and other places say that righteousness is imputed to those who believe. So belief precedes justification. Though there definitely is the fact that God initiates salvation, not us, for foreknowing, predestination...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Faith which works by love. galatians 5:6