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Believe what you like. Goodbye 👋

Let's look at like this. How are the gifts manifested? The bible is clear on this as well. The gifts were imparted by the laying on of the apostle's hands, no other way, and the apostle's are all dead. What was said specifically and what exactly was revealed in the prophesies you referred to...

The bible is clear about the manifestation of the Spirit. It was very necessary for the early church(es) but not necessary today. There is no need for the miraculous manifestations of the Spirit today, those listed in 1 Cor 12:8-10 which simulated a body by individuals in order to edify the body...

Who was Paul addressing? Us today and as a world-wide body, or the Corinthians 2000 years ago and their issues at that time and predicated upon the nature of the church at that time and place? That's one of the problems in the way people erroneously look at scripture. Part of rightly dividing...

Jesus may in fact be the Supreme authority but he would never contradict himself or scripture. Not possible. The word or God is unchanging and everlasting.

We know the word of God is complete and if complete what else can be said? What more can be added? And to confirm this there are clear warnings in both the OT and NT about adding to, taking away from, or not obeying the word of God. Although only listed in a few discreet scriptures, that does...

It is separating fact from fiction, truth from untruth. So yes; untruth must be challenged, and thus, it's getting us somewhere by not being silent.

Great. I asked you previously to delineate your experience to which you responded with a dumb, sarcastic remark. So once again, what EXACTLY have you experienced? Have you performed miracles? Have you miraculously healed someone? What? If you or someone you know or have witnessed doing such, why...

Agree, and likewise, we no longer need prophesy either since we now have the complete word of God.

Use your head. These are examples. All gifts have ceased since they were manifested by the laying on of the apostle's hands, all of which have been dead for a long time.

Tongues was an inferior gift. Tongues was a sign to unbelievers. Tongues ceased as did all gifts per 1 Cor 13:8. Why would I desire this? Why is this needed today unlike it's need in biblical times? Wake up! You've been deceived.

It's easy to mock and insult untruth. Jesus wasn't too kind with the money changers, or with the scribes and Pharisees. Are you performing miracles or do you just speak incoherent gibberish as do most that claim they have the gifts of the Spirit?

Good answer which says it all and proves the point: the gifts have ceased and you have no idea what you're talking about. 👋 goodbye

I addressed your question, or rather the bible did, in which you stated the below which is not correct. Ephesians 4:11 uses the word 'pastor' and the definition of the word is self explanatory as relates to its meaning shepherd which is the same as elder or bishop, all of which can be...

I'll stick to the clear words of the bible. What have you witnessed? Incoherent gibberish and babbling supposedly tongues? Tongues in the bible were known, earthly tongues. Have you witnessed actual miracles? Had someone straightened another's leg before your eyes? Or prophesied beyond what...

To your first comment, I didn't say nor infer mor do tge scriptures that laying on ofvtge apostle's hands was a gift of the Spirit. The various gifts are listed in 1 Cor 12:8-10. The laying on of the apostle's hands was the power promised to them by the Lord per Luke 24:49. Read Acts 6:6-8 and...

All the miraculous gifts or manifestations of the Spirit have ceased since they all were enabled by the laying on of the apostle's hands who are all dead. And the gifts are no longer as they were on the early church, which were necessary build and edify the body of Christ. We have the written...

Ephesians 4:11 (KJV) 11And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers

A pastor (poimen) means 'shepherd', which is synonymous with elder, bishop, overseer, and not the preacher or minister although a pastor could have a dual role as also being a preacher or minister.

Seeking the truth should be the goal and truth can't be found in denominationalism.