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    Understanding the Trinity as a doctrine.

    Very well, some other time when I get a hankering for salty milk.
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    Understanding the Trinity as a doctrine.

    Yes Jesus is Distinct from the Father. (Matt 6:9) Jesus is the Only Begotten Son (Colossians 1:15) The Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit which is Poured into people. (Pentecost and Joel). The Spirit is within all that speaks consistently with Words of God. Only obedience to the Scriptures (in...
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    What does, “But the one who endures to the end will be saved” mean?

    I think you are in error in your response, in so many ways. ;-) Not sure if you are coming or going.
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    Understanding the Trinity as a doctrine.

    Jesus plainly stated his subordination to the Father. "I Am" is not a reserved word for God. I listen to my God and my Lord via the Scriptures, not needful illogic.
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    What does, “But the one who endures to the end will be saved” mean?

    May His Will be done on earth as in heaven. Amen brother.
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    What does, “But the one who endures to the end will be saved” mean?

    Your discernment is lacking in my opinion, so your awareness holds no weight. Know what is yours and what is God's. Your faith and your grace (as you would see yourself) is meaningless in the final count. Only Grace in the Eyes of God will gain you entry to the dinner party. That is how...
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    Understanding the Trinity as a doctrine.

    Like I said The CEO and the Section Chief are my Lords (they have big egos - capital "L"). "Joe is my Section Chief, but Joe ain't the CEO".
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    Understanding the Trinity as a doctrine.

    It is frustrating indeed. It is like a wobbly scaffolding of the Scriptures saying they are justified in their belief. Going "all in" to support a doctrine is weird and unseemly. But keep on rocking the Song of Jesus. Cheers.
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    Understanding the Trinity as a doctrine.

    I could say "well said", but that would be untruthful.
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    What does, “But the one who endures to the end will be saved” mean?

    Matthew 24:13 plainly states that one must endure till death, under any circumstance. No backsies in afterlife. Parable of the rich man, Luke 16:19-31. Only those seed who have taken root will grow. Parable of the sower. Matthew 13:3-9. Eph 2:8 only Grace in the Eyes of God will get you...
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    Understanding the Trinity as a doctrine.

    I think you are stretching the truth here. No where in the bible is the Deity described as a hive, or bunch. His Glory is Singular and Unique. Strong's definition shows not one hint of what you say. Mark 12:29 the greek says the Lord is One. If you believe Father has a God, you are...
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    Understanding the Trinity as a doctrine.

    Here are the words I hear. The shema Deuteronomy 6:4Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: 5And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. 6And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: Why would I...
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    Understanding the Trinity as a doctrine.

    Trinity is not explicitly in the bible. All these are examples of eisegesis.
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    What does, “But the one who endures to the end will be saved” mean?

    In Genesis, the tree of life was denied to mankind. Amongst the many patriarchs, a Promise was made to Abram. In Revelation, the Promise to Abraham will be fulfilled and the tree of life restored. Rapture theology is unscriptural. Revelation is an oracle against the faithful. The mark is...
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    The TWO WITNESSES

    The 2 witness are the old and new testaments. There was no authorized bible in native languages till the Great Bible (~1539 CE) 1260 years after the proposed date of Constantine's supposed birth (~280 CE). Till then only the latin vulgate was commonly found in churches and universities. They...
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    Yeah, too many possibilities. I guess it is best to hold off conjecture till more evidence surfaces. Will certainly keep an eye out for it. Cheers.
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    It might be these reasons but the Israel blessing is flimsy as they do this all the time. Israel blessed Ephraim (younger) over Mannesseh (older). Gen 48:17 When Joseph saw his father placing his right hand on Ephraim’s head he was displeased; so he took hold of his father’s hand to move it...
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    In terms of the promised land, the tribe Joseph was split between Mannesh and Ephraim. The Levi never received land. Interestingly, as per Rev 7, Joseph and Levi snuck back in the 144000. Ephraim and Dan dropped off.
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    As I said, Revelation follows the format of an Oracle of Punishment. The OT stuff are all 1 chapter long I believe, never a entire book. The target is identified - the 7 Churches which are before God. The crimes are paraded out and then the Punishment. The 7 churches no longer exists today...
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    I don't believe in rapture theology. I believe the symbolism of the 12 tribes are meant for all faithful, gentile and jew. Martyrs first.