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  1. wattie

    LGBT MOVEMENT CONTINUES TO INFILTRATE CHRISTIAN CHURCHES

    Same experience for me and my mum. Liberal methodists in NZ.. started incorporating mystism in the late 90s.. now are affirming the lgbtq crowd. The problem is they have a mode of expressing faith that is different for each individual and church. Some methodist aren't much different to...
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    Not By Works

    Baptism? Immersion in water is a response to previously being converted and isn't connected to eternal salvation. It does not 'put away the filth of the flesh' It does save in terms of salvaging the life to God as a whole life commitment. But this is save not as in eternal but save as in...
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    Not By Works

    My dad died of prostate cancer in 2012. My uncles got it too. One of the died. The other got treatment early and it's been beaten. This should pause folks in thinking miracles happen all the time. They are rare.. biblical miracles. But yeah it is sad seeing it happen and really hard...
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    Jesus is God

    If Jesus pre-existed.. then He is fully God. It's the only way it can be. Almost all references to God before the NT are of a fully God being.
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    Divorce?

    I've been thru divorce. Its such a messy thing. Whose fault is whose.. how possessions get split.. whether the other is leaving to get the possessions. My wife left me. She now is living with a man in another city. They aren't married.
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    Jesus is God

    Well he was born in the flesh thru Mary..(although God is the Father, not Joseph). But He was pre existing before this .. Abraham rejoiced to see His day. But there is no beginning birth for Jesus in the OT.. He has always been. I need to look at that one more.
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    Jesus is God

    Well, that might have happened with the Corinthians who were saying the were 'of' Apollos.. 'of' Paul etc.. Although there isn't a passage saying they got rebaptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. So probably not. In Acts there was the group Paul found who were baptized unto...
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    what are the chartistics and nature of Almighty?

    Forgives sin of those who haven't directly offended Him. Only the Almighty can do that. I can forgive my brother for biting me, but it would be pretty cheeky if someone else came along and said 'I forgive you' to my brother. That's forgiving sin as a condition rather than a direct offense...
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    Jesus is God

    No .. I am trying to make sense of seperate beings and that not be polytheism. The Godhead .. that's monotheism. One being... God. 3 distinct persona of God.. Jesus is God..fully.. the Holy Spirit is God fully.. the Father is God fully.. but to be monotheism.. they are one being. That...
  10. wattie

    Jesus is God

    Yeah.. the video from Sander is good to explain this.. it is one God. But we don't see the way God is formed exactly since we are on a different plane. God's view is more dimensions than we see. So .. it kind of resolves any issue I had. I still insist there is no seperation though between...
  11. wattie

    Jesus is God

    This thread is basically a follow on to the Christ is God thread from posthuman. Thanks to magenta for linking to the other thread in this one.
  12. wattie

    Jesus is God

    Thanks for the video, Sander. This is very helpful. I look at the bible project animation videos as part of bible study with my friend.
  13. wattie

    Jesus is God

    Yeah.. angels worshipping Jesus.. now that's a bit different to a royal servant bowing before a human king. Angels have a status superior to people.. and they worship Jesus. That says alot.
  14. wattie

    What Is 'Relational Unity' Really About?

    That agenda having a lot to do with trying to include everyone. At the expense of objective truth and calling sin.... sin.
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    What Is 'Relational Unity' Really About?

    If the unity is based on getting back to fully believing in Jesus Christ and fully believing the Bible.. then it's Godly. If things have to be watered down to seek unity with every believer now living.. then that is not what God wants. Unity in the bible is primarily in each seperate church...
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    Jesus is God

    For Jesus to outright say 'I am God' would put those who follow Him in jeopardy. If He said it at the wrong time, He would have been able to avoid capture by His power.. but His followers would not. It had to be to the right plan and time. When Jesus talked to the Pharisees and put Himself...
  17. wattie

    Jesus is God

    Yeah.. this is clear as a bell. God is Jesus in these passages.
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    Jesus is God

    Some interesting facts: Jesus forgave others sins and taught the disciples to forgive sin of their fellows but said He never needed forgiveness of himself. Jesus said in John 8:29.. 'which of you convicts me of sin?' They could not. Jesus' critics were unable to find fault Him.
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    Jesus is God

    That is a common question from many who ask about God. There is one key thing in what you asked.. 'Bad stuff' That means there is a measure. A standard that has been broken. 'Bad'.. that is the opposite of good. Where does this standard come from? The bible record is that everything...
  20. wattie

    Jesus is God

    Context. They were given to Jesus by God who delegated to Jesus the ability to give eternal life to people. 29My Father who has given them to Me is greater than all. No one can snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30I and the Father are one.” Yes, it was given by the Father.. but Jesus is one...