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  1. wattie

    Jesus is God

    Romans 2 5But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. 6God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” 7To those who by persistence in doing good...
  2. wattie

    Jesus is God

    Word is capitalized for a reason. Because it is Jesus.
  3. wattie

    Jesus is God

    Yes. Jesus gives eternal life to those who believe in Him. Who can give eternal life but God?
  4. wattie

    Is it possible to do what is the unpardonable sin today?

    Go to the verse that has the unpardonable sin in it (or verses) Think about who is talking to who. If the Pharisees are the ones doing it.. they aren't believers. Therefore you do not apply it to believers. Just have a read of the context. From what I have read.. it's rejecting the...
  5. wattie

    Jesus is God

    Yeah.. I mean the Holy Spirit indwells every believer.. is that millions of Holy Spirits ? No. :)
  6. wattie

    Jesus is God

    Most influential leader? More than that! Revelation.. the book is Jesus' words! I'm done with you man. God bless.
  7. wattie

    Jesus is God

    Abraham didn't put himself on equal footing with God. What does King of the Jews mean? For some Jews it would mean king like David.. to overcome the Romans by royal power and war...not God.. but for others He is the Messiah. That is a different status. The prophecies of Jesus coming...
  8. wattie

    Jesus is God

    This is where it get's interesting. I have had the same sort of thinking, because for christianity to be monotheism.. the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.. need to be one being. Not seperate. The problem I get with having the one being God.. expressed in three manifestations/essences.. is when...
  9. wattie

    Jesus is God

    Yeah.. it's related to Jesus having the agent status.. on behalf of the Father.. but this does not make Him unequal. I am not saying Jesus IS the Father (although I don't believe He is seperate from the Father). That Jewish concept of agency comes in again.. where the originator sends an...
  10. wattie

    Jesus is God

    Jesus wasn't crazy when he accepted worship. I would be crazy to accept it. I don't care if the question is rhetorical. The disciples couldn't forgive sin of those who didn't directly sin against them. Peter couldn't say to John 'I forgive you' when another disciple offended them. Jesus...
  11. wattie

    Jesus is God

    Yeah, Jesus was doing something like 'self-limiting' Although, there is the key thing that after Jesus said the Father is greater.. He ascended to be equal to the Father. I see that as just a greater position, not a greater status.
  12. wattie

    Jesus is God

    If He accepts worship.. that's fully God status. Having power to forgive sin of those who haven't directly sinned against Him... that's fully God status. Do you know what would have happened if Jesus had just said 'I am God' early on? He would probably have been crucified at the wrong time...
  13. wattie

    Jesus is God

    Jesus doing things by the Father .. does not make Him lesser than the Father. Look at Revelation. Jesus is put on equal footing to Holy Spirit and given terms which are earlier given to the Father... 'Alpha and Omega' Jesus was called 'Immanuel' God with us. He was called God manifest in...
  14. wattie

    Jesus is God

    Runningman.. who did the Jews think Jesus was when they wanted to stone him? How is Jesus able to forgive sin of someone who hasn't directly sinned against Him? Even forgive sin of groups of people? How can He accept worship?
  15. wattie

    Jesus is God

    But aren't they in some sense.. each-other.. if we have one God? I agree they are distinct personas of God.. but they aren't seperate. Actual seperateness and that to me looks like Polytheism. I know it's not modalism for the Trinity-- God doesn't go in and out of each like a sock puppet. I...
  16. wattie

    Jesus is God

    And then Jesus also forgives sin, performs miracles by His power, accepts worship, saw Phillip when He wasn't with Phillip in person etc.. But getting back to the I AM... The Pharisees wanted to stone Jesus for saying this. Why would they stone someone if He were just 'sent from' the Father--...
  17. wattie

    Jesus is God

    'Before Abraham was, I AM' Jesus is calling Himself the one who spoke to Moses at the burning bush.
  18. wattie

    "Faith + Works =...

    Well, what are the examples in James of faith and works? The examples James gives are of people-- in the OT, who had faith before doing the works. The works didn't lead to salvation.. they would have been converted before doing the works. It is the only way it can be.. because they are...
  19. wattie

    Jesus is God

    Well, while Jesus was in the flesh He said this: (John 14:10) Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. (John 14:11) Believe me that I am in the Father, and...
  20. wattie

    Jesus is God

    Some do. I'm not sure which exactly.. but they add things so Jesus becomes 'a god' rather than equal to the Father.. fully God. That's what I think. Paraphrasing literal translations that lower His status