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And it can. But the subject isn't getting eternal life.. it's acts of service pleasing to God

In context this verse is about a work being just in the sight of God from someone who already has faith

No. By Grace thru faith in Jesus. OT and NT. Different ways of service OT and NT.. not a different way of salvation. Jesus was pre existent before being as Immanuel.. why would he have a different way of salvation? OT saints believed and were made righteous before doing their just works.

Ah.. I think I misunderstood your earlier post sorry on 'Hebrews 11 refutes that fully ' .. were you saying OT saints weren't saved by works.. because Hebrews 11 refutes works salvation?

Look up the Waldenses and Paulicians in church history.. that is eye opening. They never symbolized with Rome and retained a pure Christian faith.

Yes declared righteous/believed before the works were done. Responding in works to already given salvation. Hebrews 11 they had their works 'justified ' but this is not justified for eternal salvation. 'By faith' they did these works. Not that the works made the faith. God gave the...

Old Testament saints saved by works? Not sure about that. Both David and Job believed in a redeemer. Abraham believed before he offered up his son Isaac. His act of service to God in being ready to offer up his son was 'justified ' .. but not for getting eternal life. I believe OT...

Yeah, there is no 'I have to do this thing to greet them' It's going to depend on the occasion. What if the person with alcohol was abusing members of the church verbally and asking for alcohol from the congregation? It's not so cut and dried eh?

Okay, so what then would the old time name of Jesus be?

Yeah.. canon was authoritative and accepted before being called as such. It wasn't men who selected them out.. they were that compellingly authoritative it was obvious.

Isn't there also other books, such as the gospel of the cross, where the cross actually starts speaking and the gospel of Thomas plus others? I think these get put in the 'nostic' gospels. They are written long after the events and people they are about, are not eye witness testimony and...

This has been covered already, there is another at least one thread called 'Christ is God', but I think there is too much lowering of Jesus' status in these forums at the moment. When the Pharisees wanted to stone Jesus, it was for blasphemy. Jesus was making Himself equal with God. So...

Well, at least for one of these passages so far... Jesus being without sin... That means He is God. And Him being sent by the Father... Jesus was pre existent before being as Jesus, as the Word whom all things were made. Still equal to the Father.

That doesn't look like a great translation Runningman.. but anyway, God the Father and God the Son are distinct in the Trinity. Different personas of God. So.. we can have God being referred to distinctly from Jesus, because of the context of the passage. Doesn't mean the Father is superior...

The Father is greater than I.... After saying this Jesus ascends to be equal-- one with the Father! Read the whole context man! It's like me saying.. the president of the USA is greater than I. The president is not actually a superior being.. but is in a greater POSITION. Same thing here...

Running man-- do you know the Jewish concept of agency? It's when a man talks to someone and the message they are giving is-- as if it were the originators. They are an agent for another but their message is the originators. When Jesus says I AM.. and I and the Father are one.. to the Jews...

When Paul talks about speaking in tongues of angels, later in the verse he also talks about faith to remove mountains. He compares this then to Godly love, saying it is all worth nothing if he doesn't have Godly love. This is hypothetical, exaggeration to make a point about Godly love having...

Weeeell for starters- Ephesians 2:1-5... that's all about God's grace.. but there is nothing in there that doesn't support believing in Jesus for eternal salvation. Again.. belief is responding to conviction on the heart.. not working to get eternal salvation.. that is impossible. The...

Yeah.. nothing redemptive about just being human.. we aren't 'little gods'. What was that quote I heard..' a sinner trying to earn their way to heaven is like putting perfume on a corpse' I think that was from a christian rapper.. but I'm not sure.

Belief in Jesus is not a work. Jesus convicts a sinner, draws them first, then the sinner responds by believing Jesus died and rose again, that He is God, and lived sinless. Entrusting their salvation with Him. Not 'reducing sin in their life' and then they get saved. But Romans 10, John...