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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Jesus perfectly kept the law and gives the gift of righteousness to us. By faith we can access the gifts.. The Holy Spirit is also promised and by faith Jesus will live in us. If Jesus lives in you, will you be living like Jesus. Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Peoples characters are showing. This is ment to be a bible discussion on keeping the sabbath. Some are using it to put down denominations and share links that bad mouth them. Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Which bible are you reading?
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Jesus followed the law and Jesus pointed out sin. Paul said to establish the and not make it void. Abraham followed the law. Who didn't follow the law? It is the motive that determines if your legalistic or not. Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. Was Jesus saying if you love me...
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    If "Soul Sleep" Is Correct Doctrine?

    The first lie from the devil = "You will not die" When you teach that the soul does not die, you are teaching the same lie as the devil. Death = death. Perish = perish. Dead = dead. Don't twist the verses to mean something different. The soul shall die. But life comes from Jesus...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    I believe in the grace of Jesus, i believe the grace of Jesus is more powerful then sin. And By grace i can be freed from the bondage of sin. Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. Rom 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Yes the saved pass from judgement because of Christ, the saved are judged as perfect. But how are we judged as saved or not saved? You say Christians are not judged? It is easy to say your a christian. It is easy to believe in Jesus, it is easy to go to church and say your saved by grace...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Am i a legalist because i believe the 4th commandment is Gods will? Joh 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. Jesus said the above. Am i a legalist if i say...."I...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Please prove that from scripture.. I hope your not presuming this point. True we are offered the free gift of Jesus's righteousness, and this is how we are able to be saved. We are not worthy through anything we do. So why keep the sabbath? Because i love Jesus. What does it mean to walk...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    W Was there spiritual darkness in anything that God made? Was there any sin in the creation? Was there any need for a saviour or the plan of salvation? NO.. Satan was rebelling in heaven but that our world was perfect and very good. The sabbath was part of the perfect world. The sabbath...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    The law for keeping the sabbath added to by the Pharisees.. Man made standards that were a burden on people. Gods sabbath may require some sacrifice, but they are things we are happy to do for God. The sabbath is a delight.
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: 28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
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    God's Righteous Judgment, The Jews and The Law

    We are all Jews through Christ. By adoption, as children of God, as brothers and sisters with Jesus, we to are Jews. Not to follow the mistakes of the literal Jews but to follow the perfect righteousness of Jesus. The promises given to Israel are for us and we are to be God witness today.
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    If "Soul Sleep" Is Correct Doctrine?

    You seem to agree that Jesus did not go to heaven until after His resurrection. So the verse can not mean "that day" Jesus would be in heaven with with the thief. If the comma,,,, is in right place it all makes sense. If the soul has life in and of itself. It is immortal. Only God is...
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    If "Soul Sleep" Is Correct Doctrine?

    People can presume and say what it means in their minds, but the bible makes it clear. Like many subjects 1 or 2 verses seem to contradict the other verses. Do we build a doctrine on the verses that seem to contradict the other clear verses or study the verses. The bible doesn't contradict...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    Can we keep it ourselves? No Can we keep it through the Spirit in us? Yes. I was talking about keeping the law in our own strength. And if you manage to obey it in any way..... Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him:...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    True there no righteousness to be gained by following the law. There is no justification in following the law. Or salvation. We are sinners and can't keep it perfectly, ... "O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?" So do we make void the perfect law of...
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    What Jesus estabished in the upper room that night should be done in remembrance of Jesus. The blood He shed was how the new covenant was estabished. But what is the new covenant? Is it the cup of wine that represents his blood?
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    Do you observe the Sabbath?

    This topic about the law and keeping of the law has been a continual point of debate.. John Wesley (look him up), had this to say, in answer to the claim that at the death of Christ the precepts of the Decalogue (10 commandments), had been abolished with the ceremonial law, Wesley said: “The...
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    Christ kept the Law of Moses, so....

    Keep Keeping the law is spiritual and in the heart. What we do is a result of whats in the heart. We have not got the abilty to keep the law perfectly in our strength. We are so corrupted by sin we will fail somewhere no matter how strong we think we are. But by the power of Jesus in us we...