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We are not justified by works. If i believe by faith that God gave 10 commandments for us to keep and they are for our good. My faith will be seen in the works The works are obeying the law. But it is all done because of faith. By faith i keep the sabbath. Not to be justified.

It was not works. We can't be justified by works. His faith was what opened the door to do works, by faith the works were seen. Anything done without faith is useless before God. If faith is not exercised, it dies. How do you exercise faith? When trials and hard times come we need faith...

According to the bible, I'm not disagreeing, I'm just seeing if the bible agrees or disagrees. Can you give verse to say the above is the new covenant?

What is the new Covenant according to the bible?

Jesus had a perfectly righteous (law obeying ) life when on Earth. Jesus is stil perfectly righteous and law obeying today. Justification= Jesus giving us that perfect character as a gift to make us perfect (as if we never sinned). Sanctification = Jesus coming inside us to transform us...

The law does point out sin. We can't gain righteousness because of our weakness But the law is righteous, holy, spiritual and good. The opposite of sin is righteousness. If i perfectly kept the law from birth i would be righteous like Jesus. Jesus said "go and sin no more". If the law...

Heb 11:17-19 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, 18 Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: 19 Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he...

Only if you don't understand.. I'll admit i have a lot to learn and don't claim to know everything. Let me explain it again. Two people keep the sabbath day.. No one can judge the motives but we can judge the fruit. The fruit for both people shows that they are keeping the 4th commandment...

Any works or law keeping without faith is useless and God will not accept it. Any faith that does not lead to greater connection and works is dead. If i do good works by faith through grace it is not legalism.

In what way is it a legalist thread? Legalism = adherence to moral law rather than to personal religious faith. "stress obedience apart from faith and you produce legalism. Keeping the law without faith is legalism. Please prove that this thead is legalistic.

A child like faith is a simple faith that does not doubt, question, or seek explanations; it just believes. Mat 18:2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, 3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not...

If we could comprehend these questions we would be God. Many questions are uncomprehendable and God purposely didn't give us the ability to understand these things. If we understood some things as evil as we are it would be a disaster. I have faith that God is greater then time, greater...

I'm not sure how peoe can't see this. We were created by God and God gave us a diet that was designed for eternal life. The wise health council from God doesn't change over time. 2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the...

It's your choice. Pro 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise. Some wise counsel from God and backed up by science and history... As long as pigs have existed, people have weighed their hunger for meat against worries about how the...

I was reading Rom 10 And was introrested in verse 4. ....For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. And have heard people say that ..."Christ has put an end to the law". Some reasons why this is not true. 1. Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy...

It isn't our job to make other disbelieve or believe the 4th commandment. We have talked about grace, faith and works, and no one, (from what i have read) is keeping the sabbath to be saved. If everyone is by faith keeping or not keeping the sabbath, God will be the judge. Keeping the...

So we agree about grace and faith... our works are a result of salvation and a result of Jesus in us so all glory goes to God. But we differ in what we see as good works. I believe the whole 10 commandments, the teachings of Jesus are to be followed. If you believe only 9 of the 10 are moral...

So you are keeping 9/10th of the law of liberty. And not keeping the one law that God said "remember" because you refuse to see the verses in the new testament that uplift the sabbath. Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day. Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in...

Thank you, you said it well. Jesus is the true Israel and the followers of Jesus are children of Israel today.

The true Israel of today are the followers of Jesus. I'm grafted into the tree by Christ. And follow the Lord Jesus. The moral law still applies and the shadow laws are fulfilled in Christ. Making a distinction in the laws that were nailed to the cross and the unchanging moral laws is what i...